Most Efficient Spkr under 60 watts....

lostpick · May 6th, 2006, 05:12 PM

What delivers lots of clean dbs for about
25-30 watts of maxed 6L6 pair...want to hear
power tube break up, not speaker breakup ...also want loud, clean to keep up with drummer...Vintage 30s you guys like em?? 50 watt weber is not on site anymore..

Funky blues dude in Manhattan selling a
Eminence Black Powder owned by Robert
Quine....75watts...$35....100db sensitivity...

but I already installed a Celestion Silver
Series V12-60...these were run for a while
as a poor mans Vintage 30....only 96db
sensitivity...where a V30 is 100db..I could take it back to Sam Ash.. I paid $40 for it, MF sells it for $70. It would be nice to have the extra head room as the amp breaks up with a Les Paul with 490-498 pups early...so...

75 watts..100db sens...aggressive tone
60 watts..96db sens...vintage tone

This amp is the Guild 99J posted in an earlier
thread I bought for 50 bucks that contact
cleaner fixed but had a blown speaker...
rated at 30 watts but sound weak, unless
you dime it with a Paul....or pedal drive it
with a Tele...

Eminence Black Powder any good??

Joe-Bob · May 6th, 2006, 06:08 PM

I think you'll find the very high efficiency speakers to tend to be bright. As far as giving a significant amount of more headroom with that amp....you need to re-think what you're wanting that amp to do. Just put a good speaker in it and have fun. If you actually need clean headroom...well, that's what Twin Reverbs were invented for.

Wally · May 6th, 2006, 06:26 PM

Lostpick, I have found the
Eminence Legend GB128 to be a great speaker for what you want. It is high-efficiency....101db or so....big firm bottom end with warm highs. I put 2 in a BF Pro Reverb. It took that wimpy little OT into another realm volume wise. The tube distortion and the OT saturation were very pleasing out of this speaker..a very woody tone, imo. I don't think you would be unhappy.

trag-o-caster · May 6th, 2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

Lostpick, I have found the
Eminence Legend GB128 to be a great speaker for what you want. It is high-efficiency....101db or so....big firm bottom end with warm highs. I put 2 in a BF Pro Reverb. It took that wimpy little OT into another realm volume wise. The tube distortion and the OT saturation were very pleasing out of this speaker..a very woody tone, imo. I don't think you would be unhappy.

Same thing with my Pro Reverb with Celestion G12H-80's.

BTW - I had a Celestion Silver Series V12-80 in one of my DR's and I really liked it a lot. YMMV of course.

Bill Ashton · May 9th, 2006, 07:31 PM

...is available again, probably as of today.

Nice speaker. Its on his site. Apparently subcontracted out, American frame with British cone.

I have one of his AlNiCo Signature 12's in my 66-J, but as I remember you probably don't have room for the magnet cover...

Robin Nahum · May 9th, 2006, 08:42 PM

SPL of 100.

Tremo · May 9th, 2006, 09:16 PM

Weber 12F150T with a 50 ounce magnet and light dope.

May 6th, 2006, 05:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
lostpick Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Staten Island, NYC Posts: 1,012	Most Efficient Spkr under 60 watts.... What delivers lots of clean dbs for about 25-30 watts of maxed 6L6 pair...want to hear power tube break up, not speaker breakup ...also want loud, clean to keep up with drummer...Vintage 30s you guys like em?? 50 watt weber is not on site anymore.. Funky blues dude in Manhattan selling a Eminence Black Powder owned by Robert Quine....75watts...$35....100db sensitivity... but I already installed a Celestion Silver Series V12-60...these were run for a while as a poor mans Vintage 30....only 96db sensitivity...where a V30 is 100db..I could take it back to Sam Ash.. I paid $40 for it, MF sells it for $70. It would be nice to have the extra head room as the amp breaks up with a Les Paul with 490-498 pups early...so... 75 watts..100db sens...aggressive tone 60 watts..96db sens...vintage tone This amp is the Guild 99J posted in an earlier thread I bought for 50 bucks that contact cleaner fixed but had a blown speaker... rated at 30 watts but sound weak, unless you dime it with a Paul....or pedal drive it with a Tele... Eminence Black Powder any good??

May 6th, 2006, 06:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Joe-Bob Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 4,017	I think you'll find the very high efficiency speakers to tend to be bright. As far as giving a significant amount of more headroom with that amp....you need to re-think what you're wanting that amp to do. Just put a good speaker in it and have fun. If you actually need clean headroom...well, that's what Twin Reverbs were invented for. __________________ "German is the language God uses when He really means business." --FZ

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Bill Ashton Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Massachusetts Posts: 512	The Weber Signature 12B... ...is available again, probably as of today. Nice speaker. Its on his site. Apparently subcontracted out, American frame with British cone. I have one of his AlNiCo Signature 12's in my 66-J, but as I remember you probably don't have room for the magnet cover...

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Robin Nahum Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 57 Posts: 1,732 13 Photos	Eminence Patriot Cannabis Rex SPL of 100. __________________ RN

May 6th, 2006, 06:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wally Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 4,212	Lostpick, I have found the Eminence Legend GB128 to be a great speaker for what you want. It is high-efficiency....101db or so....big firm bottom end with warm highs. I put 2 in a BF Pro Reverb. It took that wimpy little OT into another realm volume wise. The tube distortion and the OT saturation were very pleasing out of this speaker..a very woody tone, imo. I don't think you would be unhappy.

May 9th, 2006, 09:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Weber 12F150T with a 50 ounce magnet and light dope.