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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 71
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Dr. Z amps
I've heard so many great things about these amps so I'm going to ask why you like yours or the ones you've played through? What tones do you get for what styles of music? What guitars do you play through? Headroom or not? Loud band? Bedroom player? What type of diff. tones are you going to get through diff. speaker setups?
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 885
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About my Z.
I suppose I could go on about my MAZ38Sr (2x12) combo (I like it a lot), but I'll stick to answering your specific questions.
1. I like mine because it sounds great, is versatile and is built like a tank. 2. My own band plays blues, R&B, New Orleans, classic rock and a little blues rock. We don't gig so much anymore, so I freelance--on a given night I may find myself doing any of the above, plus funk, soul and reggae. 3. Main guitar is a Tele, I do use a G&L ASAT, a Les Paul with 'buckers, and a Les Paul with P90s. 4. All these amps are rated quite conservatively. Quality speakers and transformers make every Z I've played much louder and bigger than their ratings. My 38W amp is as big, heavy and loud as a Twin Reverb. Plenty of headroom for any stage, any setup, any drummer. 5. Never experimented with speakers. Came with a nice set of (dissimilar) Celestions. Sounds great. Good enough for me. P.
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 61
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confessions of a Zeeyaholic...
...i went on a Z-binge last year looking for the one that suited me best...i started with a Carmen Ghia head and used it with a lightweight 4-10 Mojotone cab loaded with Jensen P-10R's...it was fabulous but i wanted to try some other amps so i sold it to my bandmate who still has it and got a Rt 66 with a Zbest 2-12 loaded with a G12H and Greenback...that was a heavy rig that sounded great but was way too loud before getting into the overdrive territory that i play in most of the time...so i sold it and got a Maz Jr 2-10 with Z's speakers....i bought it from Rob DiStefano here at the TDPRI Garage Sale....it was a great amp that had some versatility but just too many knobs for my tastes and i wanted to try a Z-28 so i traded a fellow straight across for a 2-10 Z-28....really great amp that was kind of a cross between a Deluxe and a Carmen Ghia...a bit too much headroom for my tastes though and so i sold it and got another Carmen Ghia 2-10....ah! i was back to the one i liked the best but the rig was too heavy so i traded it for a head and some cash ....now i'm back where i started a year ago with a Carmen Ghia head (using a 1-12 cab that i built with a Weber Ceramic Blue Dog) and here i'm staying....i get the best tone with the least fuss at what i think is the perfect volume for the venues i play at and it's lightweight...the tone knob on a Carmen Ghia is amazing...it dials in the sweet spot on any guitar that you throw at it in less than 5 seconds...it has great presence and cut without any middle ar high end harshness....it cleans up just enough to keep things civil when thats an issue...(rarely is)...takes pedals well but doesn't need them....its also pretty tweakable to individual tastes with speaker and tube selection....oh and it rocks!!!!
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,240
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paddywhack, that was some kind of Dr. Z journey you went on. Thanks for sharing that.
I'm thinking of getting a Mini Z as my first foray into boutique land. But, I may just spring for a slightly larger amp, and your descriptions will help a lot in picking the appropriate one. I rarely have the need or desire to play very loudly, and the Carmen Ghia just may be a perfect practice, recording and gigging amp. |
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Tele-Afflicted
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I've been GAS'ing for a Z28. Hopefully I can use my Tax $$$ to get one.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Halloweentown, MA
Posts: 444
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My Mini
On the Mini-Z front...
No clean headroom to speak of, you can get the volume knob up to about 9:00 before it startts to break up. There's no tone control, so any adjustments need to be made with your guitar. The overdrive, (& there's a LOT!) is very nice, & the amp "ceans" up nicely (as clean as it gets, anyway) by rolling the guitar volume back. The Mini is loud enough to keep up with a relatively quiet rehearsal, but an enthusiastic drummer can bury it easily. It's basically an OD pedal with a speaker attached... But in the best possible way. I find the basic tone a tad nasally, but it sits well in a band mix, & records like a full on Marshall stack. It's definitely a one trick pony, but it's a REALLY nice trick. Well recommended for practicing, recording, & low volume rehearsals & gigs.
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Age: 37
Posts: 621
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Re: Dr. Z amps
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I've got the MAZ-18 Jr. NR 2X10 Combo amp. I really do love it. I play mostly country, both new country, and older. It handles either easily. For guitars, I use my Highway 1 Telecaster. Plays like a dream through this amp. As someone else mentioned, these amps are very conservatively rated, ie, they are much louder than you will expect them to be. Significantly louder actually. My 18 Watt has been more than enough in band situations for example. I play in situations where proper stage band mix is understood by band members - so no volume wars. There can be a LOT of headroom with these amps, however, it depends how you set them up, how loud you are running them - if you have a master type amp or not, etc. But yes, for example a MAZ-38 or Mazerati can reproduce cleans at deafening levels if you need them to. I've gigged with mine - and it's garnered some unsolicited comments from soundmen and drummers how good it sounds. I find mine really compliments pedals - overdrives sound sweet, not grainy if you choose to use pedals for that. Probably the best aspect is that with amps like the MAZ-18 or 38, the tonal pallette available is absolutely huge. You can darned near dial in any sound you'd like. If you can't get the tone you need with that pallette, there's something else wrong. All of these are just words - the best thing I can recommend is to find a dealer that sells them and plug in and give it a whirl. The only cautionary note I'd add is that if the amp is totally brand new - the speaker will sound very stiff, brittle, and un-nervingly bright, harsh, etc. After 10 hours of play time, the speaker will break in nicely and smooth right out and sound like it should. Hope that helps, Shawn
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Tele-Holic
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Had a Maz Jr 2x10 non reverb model, gigged it pretty extensively. Eventually I decided I wanted a little more headroom so I got a 1x12 Mazerati combo, and I love it. As Shawn said, these amps are a lot louder than their power rating would lead you to believe. While all of the Z's have their own voice, one common trait that everyone seems to love is their midrange. Not honky, very pleasing, kind of chewy and warm. Really cuts through a band mix nicely too. I'd add that I didn't care foe the Celestion V30 that came stock in mine, and I swapped it out for an Eminence Tonker. Very nice speaker.
My current gig is in a four piece cover band, and I'm the only guitarist. The Mazerati is a clean amp with a lot of nice headroom unless you run it LOUD, so I use pedals with mine to get dirt. With this kind of setup I can cover an amazing amount of territory, with great tone. But when you do run it loud or use it with an attenuator, you get these gorgeous crunchy tones. THere's a guy over at the z-talk forum who just posted some sound clips of his Mazerati running through an attenuator and it sounds gorgeous. |
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Age: 37
Posts: 621
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I'm kind of monogamous with amps and guitars anyway. I get "option anxiety" otherwise. LOL Shawn
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 378
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Shawn, what do you have to say about lows on your Maz? I know you've had yours for quite a while so I'm curious to hear. I've had a Maz 18 210 for a few months and I love the sound and the range of tones; about the only thing I'd like is a little more fendery thump in the low end.
Thanks, Mike |
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Tele-Afflicted
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Yes!
Everyone please..run out and grab A Dr. Z!
It's the best damn amp on the planet!
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Age: 37
Posts: 621
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I've noticed that in a bedroom type situation - that super deep low end of my Fender 6L6's is more pronounced that my MAZ's EL84's, however..... It's an entirely different story for live and recording. For both live and recording, I much prefer the way the MAZ is voiced. I find my Fender can easily get lost in a mix, as it is inherently scooped, whereas my MAZ really sits nice and present in a mix, without being obnoxious. The MAZ has that throaty midrange with the glassy, jangly tones that just sit wonderful in a live band situation. Quite honestly, I've come to find that super deep 6L6 low end to be attractive in a bedroom situation where it's not competing with anything like drums and bass. Hope that helps... Shawn
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Age: 48
Posts: 3,389
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I have a MAZ 38 with Celestion Blues. Very nice amp. Tonally, it's unique and interesting; seems to straddle the fence between classic British and American tonestacks. It flirts with the chime and compression character of an AC30, but is voiced quite differently, and as pushed hard, the inherent clipping character is a bit more gritty, whereas a VOX retains more of a chimey sheen in the upper mids and highs. Sorry for the wine tasting terms, it's the best I can do.
Maz 38 is one big loud mambajamba behemoth of an amp. As with AC30, I only carry it out if I think the venue will hold it. I chose the 38 for a job a while back at a big outdoor show with a large stage, where I thought that surely I'd be able to open the amp up a bit. This turned out not to be the case, and I had to set the master toward the lower side. Still sounded good, but I really don't think this amp opens up and breathes properly until the master is upwards of noon/12:00. Bass response is definitely attenuated as the master volume is decreased. I don't own, and have never gigged, a Maz Jr., but I've played the amp. Seems to have a stronger mids presentation than the Sr., which probably speaks to the lower headroom. Maz Jr. seems to be slighter louder/more present than a reissue Korg AC15, but is generally in that ballpark. Actually, I'd love to see an EL84 configuration that sits neatly between Maz Jr./AC15 and Maz Sr./AC30; unfortunately, the math doesn't quite work out.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Twin Peaks. NY
Age: 53
Posts: 493
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maz jr question
How does that master volume thing work on the Maz Jr as compared to other master volume amps. Can you get decent gain from it at lower volume, such as just a slight bit of crunch? A lot of the master volume amps I've tried just don't cut it, unless you want a metal tone.
There are none around here to try out. |
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Tele-Afflicted
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Mazerati on the way
I'd love to chime in as well, but mine hasn't arrived yet. Hopefully early next week. I bought a Mazerati 2x10 combo off the Gear Page.
Are there any Mazerati owners here? I played the rati' head thru a 1x12 cabinet at the nearest dealer, liked it, and made my pruchase based on that. Would be interested to hear some opinions on them. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Paragould Arkansas
Age: 47
Posts: 245
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Mazerati
I have a Mazerati head that I play through a Vox 2-12 cabinet with Celestion blues. It takes the place of my beloved AC 30's that I just didnt trust. It was definately up until now the closest thing to an AC 30 that Z made. Now the Stingray is supposed to be the thing for the AC 30 vibe. I also have a Maz 38 SR that I have up for sale. It is a great amp in that it can be a little Fender a litttle Vox and a little Marshall. My only complaint is that for me it gives me tonal option anxiety. (TOA!) These amps are definately addictive. You get one and then before long you want to get another model.
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Tele-Afflicted
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I really have fallen hard for the 2 knob models, I just find it a lot easier to dial it in with 1 knob.
(semi-duplicate post from the other Z thread) I have a Mazerati 2x10 a 2x10 cab and a Ghia head. So for lower volume, I can use the 18 watt Ghia with the 2x10 cab, one step up would be the Mazerati, then if I wanted I could use the 2x10 cab as an extension to the Mazerati giving me a 4x10 super kind of thing, and if the venue is big enough I can use both amps which is really fun. I have to admit, the Z's have got me all the way, I would say I am a zealot at this point, I sold all my fender amps. [/quote]Quite honestly, I've come to find that super deep 6L6 low end to be attractive in a bedroom situation where it's not competing with anything like drums and bass. Quote:
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Tele-Afflicted
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My 2006 resolution.
Get a 1 x 12 Z Cab (Had one, sold it DUH) Get a Z28 head Get a Ghia Head or Mazerati Head. Swap heads based on whatever the gig requires.
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 71
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Wow this went like a wildfire. I see people seem to love the Dr's amps.
I guess what I'm looking for is something that can get fairly loud with a little bit of grit. I've cranked up my Matchless DC-30 at times on stage and it was too dirty. I'm in Sacramento and guess I have to go to the Bay Area to find some to play. Rocker Guitars has some I believe. They act like they don't want you to touch their stuff when you go in there. Any other places have any Z's in NorCal? |
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