Unbelieveable Twin

jakd602 · November 4th, 2005, 03:59 PM

I just bought a Twin that is unbelieveable. It is a early70's
blackfaced,new Mojo cab,new Ruby tubes,carbon comp resistors,Sprague caps,all new cabinet hardware,new footswitch,Weber California 12's and Fender cover.

It is basically all new except for the chassis and the transformers.It looks like a brand new '65 Twin.

I have owned two Twins with JBLs and I have been playing a 65 Reissue for about five years. This amp blows them away...not even close. And, one of the best things is it doesn't weigh as much as my friend's 73 Silverface with stock Fender speakers. It is pretty close to the weight of my Reissue. Mojo uses pine and I guess Fender uses something heavier??

It cost me about the same as a '65 Reissue and it is not even in the same class as a Reissue. I'll match it with any Twin I've ever heard.

The guy's name is Rick and he has a website: www.vintagesound.net. I don't have any affiliation with him but he was a good guy to deal with.

RussBert · November 4th, 2005, 07:34 PM

Sounds like you got a great amp there!

Is your the one pictured on the website? Does your have Weber alnico Cali's?

Tremo · November 4th, 2005, 08:49 PM

I have some major issues with some of the stuff I saw on that web site. The guy seems to be replacing parts that perhaps don't need to be replaced. The tone and coupling caps, for example. The only tone and coupling caps that need replacement are basically any that have failed or leak. In the case of a tweed or early brown, the old yellow Astrons generally do need replacement. In the case of an early SF, the brown poop colored caps suck and usually do get replaced because nearly anything sounds better. But in the BF amps, and later SF amps that used blue case mylar caps, those usually still work just fine and do NOT need replacement.

RussBert · November 4th, 2005, 09:27 PM

Well, the Dude did say the were in fact early SF Fenders, and quite possibly full of "Turds"

The again, if you take a beat SF amp, put it in a fresh cab and go through the circuit, what's the big deal about replacing all the caps with OD's...should you leave "X" amount of original caps? What if they begin to leak and/or fail in a couple 3 years?

Still, seems like a great amp!

Tremo · November 5th, 2005, 03:17 AM

They won't fail. Those blue cased mylar caps in the later SF will last forever.

JohnnyAtomic · November 6th, 2005, 06:03 PM

I have to agree w/ Tremo, I would never replace those blue tubular caps unless they tested bad. I think they are a large part of what makes a vintage fender sound like a vintage fender. Just about everything else is too hi-fi sounding. Brown doo-doo caps, or blue drops, OK change'em if'n ya want to.

Johnny Atomic

Roli · November 6th, 2005, 07:02 PM

Caps don't have any sound.

tlpruitt · November 7th, 2005, 12:25 PM

No need to replace those blue tubular caps with another brand or type of cap with the same value.

-Tim

crazyjosh · November 7th, 2005, 12:44 PM

I thought that they turned to silver face in the 70's.. *stratches head*.

maybe im wrong, i usually just talk out of my ass most of the time.

RussBert · November 7th, 2005, 05:30 PM

...but who said they had Blue Tubular (or should we say cylindrical) or the Blue Drops in there? No one advocated the changing of the hallowed "Blue" Caps...

I'll bet it had brown turds!

mark norwine · November 7th, 2005, 06:23 PM

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Caps don't have any sound.

oh, boy.....strap in, here it comes....

Roli · November 8th, 2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mark norwine

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Caps don't have any sound.

oh, boy.....strap in, here it comes....

...here comes your 19th nervous breakdown.

johnny guitar · November 9th, 2005, 07:46 PM

I bought a Super reverb from Rick at vintagesound too, and it is an AMAZING sounding amp and it looks brand new. I am not any kind of amp expert, but I know this one sure sounds great, and better than the SRRIs I have played through. The price was right too. Rick is incredible to deal with too, providing responsive customer service. I think his amps are great deals.

JamonHamon · November 16th, 2005, 09:02 PM

I just ordered a SR with mercery transformer and other mercery parts I'll give a review once I receive it and the honeymoon is over the owner seems very helpful and eager to meet the customers needs (JamonHamon) Dale

eryque · November 16th, 2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mark norwine

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Caps don't have any sound.

oh, boy.....strap in, here it comes....

Once upon a time I was an incredibly naive newbie to vintage gear (now you can just drop "incredibly") and believed all the hype about re-capping and Sprague Orange Drops, etc. So when I got my '79 Princeton Reverb I decided to BF the circuit and change out all those awful old Mallorys for Orange Drops. Mark bailed me out and fixed everything I broke. Well, after everything was said and done, it didn't sound quite as good as it did before I ripped up the circuit. I'd bet a nickel that those old blue Mallory caps were a significant part of the sound of that amp.

JamonHamon · November 16th, 2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eryque

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Originally Posted by mark norwine

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Caps don't have any sound.

oh, boy.....strap in, here it comes....

Once upon a time I was an incredibly naive newbie to vintage gear (now you can just drop "incredibly") and believed all the hype about re-capping and Sprague Orange Drops, etc. So when I got my '79 Princeton Reverb I decided to BF the circuit and change out all those awful old Mallorys for Orange Drops. Mark bailed me out and fixed everything I broke. Well, after everything was said and done, it didn't sound quite as good as it did before I ripped up the circuit. I'd bet a nickel that those old blue Mallory caps were a significant part of the sound of that amp.

So I don't understand if caps don't have sound why did the blues sound better (My head hurts)Jamonhamon Dale

Tim Armstrong · November 16th, 2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JamonHamon

So I don't understand if caps don't have sound why did the blues sound better (My head hurts)Jamonhamon Dale

Take a big, deep breath.....now exhale....relax....ease your head.

Caps and resistors directly affect the electronic signal that is travelling from your guitar's pickups to your speaker. So, yep, they affect the sound. High quality ones do what the amp designer intends, lower quality ones may or may not.

Roli, who originally wrote "Caps don't have any sound" was either kidding, or misinformed.

Cheers, Tim

JamonHamon · November 16th, 2005, 11:35 PM

Take a big, deep breath.....now exhale....relax....ease your head.
Still dark breathing in paper bag, I can hear angels sing. Man I almost droped my cookies that was so funny Jamonhamon Dale

November 4th, 2005, 03:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
jakd602 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 89	Unbelieveable Twin I just bought a Twin that is unbelieveable. It is a early70's blackfaced,new Mojo cab,new Ruby tubes,carbon comp resistors,Sprague caps,all new cabinet hardware,new footswitch,Weber California 12's and Fender cover. It is basically all new except for the chassis and the transformers.It looks like a brand new '65 Twin. I have owned two Twins with JBLs and I have been playing a 65 Reissue for about five years. This amp blows them away...not even close. And, one of the best things is it doesn't weigh as much as my friend's 73 Silverface with stock Fender speakers. It is pretty close to the weight of my Reissue. Mojo uses pine and I guess Fender uses something heavier?? It cost me about the same as a '65 Reissue and it is not even in the same class as a Reissue. I'll match it with any Twin I've ever heard. The guy's name is Rick and he has a website: www.vintagesound.net. I don't have any affiliation with him but he was a good guy to deal with. __________________ "Anythang that Twangs"

November 6th, 2005, 06:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
JohnnyAtomic Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 1,352	I have to agree w/ Tremo, I would never replace those blue tubular caps unless they tested bad. I think they are a large part of what makes a vintage fender sound like a vintage fender. Just about everything else is too hi-fi sounding. Brown doo-doo caps, or blue drops, OK change'em if'n ya want to. Johnny Atomic __________________ flaming hamper of rock! www.myspace.com/johnnyatomicmusic

November 7th, 2005, 12:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
tlpruitt Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 230	I Agree with Tremo Too No need to replace those blue tubular caps with another brand or type of cap with the same value. -Tim __________________ Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. FZ

November 7th, 2005, 12:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
crazyjosh TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 20	hrmm, nice.. I thought that they turned to silver face in the 70's.. stratches head. maybe im wrong, i usually just talk out of my ass most of the time. __________________ -joshua dean bloodsworth

November 9th, 2005, 07:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
johnny guitar Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago NW burb Age: 46 Posts: 212	Super Super! I bought a Super reverb from Rick at vintagesound too, and it is an AMAZING sounding amp and it looks brand new. I am not any kind of amp expert, but I know this one sure sounds great, and better than the SRRIs I have played through. The price was right too. Rick is incredible to deal with too, providing responsive customer service. I think his amps are great deals.

November 4th, 2005, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
RussBert Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 321	Sounds like you got a great amp there! Is your the one pictured on the website? Does your have Weber alnico Cali's?

November 4th, 2005, 08:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	I have some major issues with some of the stuff I saw on that web site. The guy seems to be replacing parts that perhaps don't need to be replaced. The tone and coupling caps, for example. The only tone and coupling caps that need replacement are basically any that have failed or leak. In the case of a tweed or early brown, the old yellow Astrons generally do need replacement. In the case of an early SF, the brown poop colored caps suck and usually do get replaced because nearly anything sounds better. But in the BF amps, and later SF amps that used blue case mylar caps, those usually still work just fine and do NOT need replacement.

November 4th, 2005, 09:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
RussBert Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 321	Well, the Dude did say the were in fact early SF Fenders, and quite possibly full of "Turds" The again, if you take a beat SF amp, put it in a fresh cab and go through the circuit, what's the big deal about replacing all the caps with OD's...should you leave "X" amount of original caps? What if they begin to leak and/or fail in a couple 3 years? Still, seems like a great amp!

November 5th, 2005, 03:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	They won't fail. Those blue cased mylar caps in the later SF will last forever.

November 6th, 2005, 07:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Roli Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ¤ Hungary ¤ Age: 30 Posts: 1,645 5 Photos	Caps don't have any sound.

November 7th, 2005, 05:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
RussBert Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 321	...but who said they had Blue Tubular (or should we say cylindrical) or the Blue Drops in there? No one advocated the changing of the hallowed "Blue" Caps... I'll bet it had brown turds!

November 16th, 2005, 09:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
JamonHamon Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,411	Re: Unbelieveable Super reverb I just ordered a SR with mercery transformer and other mercery parts I'll give a review once I receive it and the honeymoon is over the owner seems very helpful and eager to meet the customers needs (JamonHamon) Dale

November 16th, 2005, 11:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
JamonHamon Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,411	Take a big, deep breath.....now exhale....relax....ease your head. Still dark breathing in paper bag, I can hear angels sing. Man I almost droped my cookies that was so funny Jamonhamon Dale