Fender Twin Reverb vs Super Reverb (+Marshall Plexi) for a DUAL AMP rig

[FuZZBoY]

Hi all,

my question is pretty simple, which amp would compliment my Marshall Plexi 1987x (50w)?
My vote goes for rhe Super Reverb as his lower wattage would fit the plexi better (and the blend of a 4x12 half stack with a 4x10 fender should be delicious...).
But maybe I would miss something, and the bigger headroom of the twin would nicely contrast with the plexi

It's for a garage rock DUO (drums + guitar/vox).
See this thread for more details

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-c...ck-band-2.html

I'd be happy to have your opinion on this

[jonhart]

You can't go wrong with a Super. I have a 66 Super and nothing comes close to the tone of this thing, nothing beats those 410's.

[gridlock]

I have always been a Marshall guy and currently own a 1987x. I recently traded a Marshall combo for this 1966 Blackface Twin Reverb.

I am loving the Twin, great clean tones, great reverb, and it sounds really good with a little overdrive with a Fulltone OCD pedal (almost Marshall overdrive tones).

My twin is running approximately 40+ watts with two tubes pulled.

Really getting into the Fender Twin and glad I made the trade.

The Super Reverb and the Deluxe Reverb also sound great.

Good luck.
Gridlock

[tjalla]

I can't comment on which amp would pair with the plexi better... but this is by far the best question posted in this section in a while

[fauxsuper]

Originally Posted by FuZZBoY

Hi all,

my question is pretty simple, which amp would compliment my Marshall Plexi 1987x (50w)?
My vote goes for rhe Super Reverb as his lower wattage would fit the plexi better (and the blend of a 4x12 half stack with a 4x10 fender should be delicious...).
But maybe I would miss something, and the bigger headroom of the twin would nicely contrast with the plexi

It's for a garage rock DUO (drums + guitar/vox).
See this thread for more details

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-c...ck-band-2.html

I'd be happy to have your opinion on this

I think you will get some interesting complex tones either way, but if you go with the twin you will have more note defintion and the option of having some cleans for contrast. The Marshall will tend to bury the more subtle aspects of the Super if you intend to crank the Marshall. The Twin will be able to have a chance of allowing a clean Fender sound to project. My experience has been that two contrasting amps work better the closer they are in SPL capability.

[FuZZBoY]

Nice replies thanks!

Originally Posted by fauxsuper

I think you will get some interesting complex tones either way, but if you go with the twin you will have more note defintion and the option of having some cleans for contrast. The Marshall will tend to bury the more subtle aspects of the Super if you intend to crank the Marshall. The Twin will be able to have a chance of allowing a clean Fender sound to project. My experience has been that two contrasting amps work better the closer they are in SPL capability.

Yeah I intend to crank that Marshall amp so it will be pretty loud, but I won't have that many clean songs but I'm interested in mixing a cleanish amp with a very crunchy one. With the idea to put on the muff on solos on the TR or SR...

I'm also thinking about getting rid of my 1987x for a 1959...
What do you think? the 1959 will have more bottom end...

[fauxsuper]

Not sure about "more" bottom, but I think the SL would blend better with either one of the Fenders. I saw Warren Hyanes last year with a Marshall 100 watt Super Lead and a Super Reverb and his tone was amazing. But he'd probably sound good on most anything. He never really cranked either amp though and his volume was lower than I would have expected.

[FuZZBoY]

Originally Posted by fauxsuper

Not sure about "more" bottom, but I think the SL would blend better with either one of the Fenders. I saw Warren Hyanes last year with a Marshall 100 watt Super Lead and a Super Reverb and his tone was amazing. But he'd probably sound good on most anything. He never really cranked either amp though and his volume was lower than I would have expected.

Why? Because it's a cleaner amp?

[Green Lantern]

If you're playing loud and you want clean then the obvious answer to me is the Twin Reverb. If you're cranking the Marshall, the Super Reverb will not be clean keeping up with it.

[marshman]

Put a Twin in a 4x10 cab?

Probably not really all that helpful, was it?

[FuZZBoY]

Well I guess I have to rethink about all my gear, so I don't know yet if I'll use it THAT clean... I want a clean amp BC I want to put fuzz on it :)

The whole idea behind my sound is pretty dirty...

[FuZZBoY]

My ideal amp would be the quad reverb but it's not reissued and I don't think I want to mess with vintage gear

[fauxsuper]

Originally Posted by FuZZBoY

Why? Because it's a cleaner amp?

It's somewhat of a personal preference but I find the Super Lead to be a more interesting and touch sensitive amp. I think it does the "between clean and distortion" thing fairly well. I find the cool thing about using two different amps is that they go from clean to distorted in different ways and at different rates, which can open up some interesting ways to shade your sound by altering your picking attack. It seems to spread your sound out in an almost 3D manner.

Of, course, you might be the only one that notices. I've discoverd that the sound of running two amps or a stereo rig often gets lost on the way to the audience. You're depending on sound guys to get the mix right, or if you don't mike the amps, your audience might only hear the amp closest to them. What you hear onstage is not likely to be what the audience hears.

Obviously, this depends on how much time you have to set up, the stage configuration and how much control you have over what comes up in the monitors. The more control you can have over these things, the more likely it is that your plans will work out.

I saw Warren Haynes at the House of Blues, and it looked like he had at least three mikes on his rig, and for all I know he had a direct feed or two as well. Where I was sitting, what I was hearing seemed to be mainly from the PA, so I have a feeling the stage volume wasn't extreme.

[Dave_O]

Multi amp setups?

Some nice Strat-thru-Marshall-and-SF-Bassman sounds here...

[FuZZBoY]

For the Marshall I think I'll stick with the 1987x as I want a crunch tone.
Maybe the twin will be better matched volumewise with the 1987x

[FuZZBoY]

I tried a Fender The Twin with my plexi, and I have to say it sounded just RIGHT. I played it on the 25w output and it was plenty loud already.

So I guess the SR's 40w are enough and the TR's 85w are probably too much if I want a little crunch from my base sound.

[dodona]

the Super Reverb is much closer to an Marshall, whereas a Twin might be a clean 'hi-fi' addition to the Marshall.