Ibanez TSA5 - New 5 watt Tube - Tubescreamer Combo Amp - Looks like a little winner

[studio1087]

No I'm not getting one!

I just stumbled on this.

5 watts - All Tube - 5 knobs - you have a volume and tone control next to TS9 controls(volume - tone- gain).

You can buy a footswitch to turn the Tubescreamer on and off so it's like a two channel clean/dirty amp.

It's 5 watts with a 10" speaker like a Marshall Class 5 but the Ibanez will do loud & clean.

It has an external speaker output!

$249







$249.........GC is doing the 15% Coupon over the 4th (per usual) so in reality this is a $212 amp. You can buy it for $212.

I have the TSA15H. Love it. Love Tubescreamers.

I think Ibanez is going to sell a few of these 5 watt amps.

[briluster]

Cool deal! Anyone comment on how they sound?

[muchxs]

How's it "all tube"? Last time I checked a Tube Screamer is a solid state device. That's right, folks. Engage the Tube Screamer and you hear transistors.

It's a Champ with a Tube Screamer in front of it.

[telepath]

Originally Posted by muchxs

How's it "all tube"? Last time I checked a Tube Screamer is a solid state device. That's right, folks. Engage the Tube Screamer and you hear transistors.

Why retort in such a manner? really.

'All tube amplifier'.
The amp is tube. Not the built in effect.

Obviously.
Most amps will have some componenets other than tubes
But you knew that too.

You cannot 'hear' transistors. Only the resulting effect that they assist in the creation of.
Another thing you already knew.

[AllroyPA]

For 40 more dollars you can get the Head and 15 watts ... if ya have speakers of course. I've played them at the shop cool amps. Where ya gettin 15 watts for 250 brand new?

[studio1087]

Originally Posted by muchxs

How's it "all tube"? Last time I checked a Tube Screamer is a solid state device. That's right, folks. Engage the Tube Screamer and you hear transistors.

You're kidding right?

For decades people have been putting Tube Screamer Pedals in front of tube amplifiers to push the front end of the amplifier.

This is a 5 all tube amplifier.....with a Tube Screamer built in.

Like when I use my TS-808 or TS9 on the floor in front of my Deluxe Reverb....there's a Tube Screamer pedal in front of a tube amp.

The amp is all tube, and they've put one of the most popular pedals in history in the same unit with the amp. It's handy and clever. I have the 15 watt version. Love it.

It's so obvious to me that I wouldn't think I was being clever if I challenged the verbiage.

I drive a VW Turbo Passat. The dealer told me it was "all leather" and I still knew the engine and frame were made from steel. I'm just that clever. I understood the man. No worries about the car or Ibanez amp.

[muchxs]

Originally Posted by telepath

Why retort in such a manner? really.

Because I hear the same thing over and over from people who don't know better. Modeling amps with a tube power amp for instance described as "tube". There's instant confusion, people think the tube screamer is an additional channel.

For instance you get the same result whacking your Champion 600 with a Tube Screamer pedal with the additional benefit of bein' able to use said Tube Screamer with your full sized gig rig.

[studio1087]

[telepath]

Originally Posted by muchxs

Because I hear the same thing over and over from people who don't know better. Modeling amps with a tube power amp for instance described as "tube". There's instant confusion, people think the tube screamer is an additional channel.

For instance you get the same result whacking your Champion 600 with a Tube Screamer pedal with the additional benefit of bein' able to use said Tube Screamer with your full sized gig rig.

Sure, yep you could. And that woud be my pref too, but ..

Nice to have the whole shooting match contained in the one carry-in package though. I suspect that is the intention.

And the Ibanez here is sporting a 10" and has a tone knob
What's the Champion 600? - a 6" I think? . Fixed tonestack.

I dont want one of these Ibanez, but i just think thats a product offering to be applauded in these days of digital.

[ludashoeless]

thats cool! is it an 808 circuit?

[muchxs]

Originally Posted by studio1087

You're kidding right?

When you want a rockin' tone without the pedal(s) just let me know. I'm a hot rodder so my philosophy has always been to strip it down until I can't strip it anymore. I used to sit around the kitchen table and listen to motorheads talkin' about moddin' Holley carburetors usin' diagonal cutters. That philosophy as applied to amps means I'll suggest something like "Locate R15. Remove it." Got enough low buck mods to write a book. Many of 'em cost zero bucks. It all starts with knowin' what it is and what it ain't.

Originally Posted by telepath

Nice to have the whole shooting match contained in the one carry-in package though. I suspect that is the intention.

And the Ibanez here is sporting a 10" and has a tone knob
What's the Champion 600? - a 6" I think? . Fixed tonestack.

I dont want one of these Ibanez, but i just think thats a product offering to be applauded in these days of digital.

Be great if it looked homebrew inside, TS808 guts in front of a Champ tag board. Easier to mod like that. Near as I can tell it's a tweed Princeton circuit with the Tube Screamer in front of it.

[studio1087]

I ordered a 100% beef hamburger at noon today and it was served to me with a bun and a pickle. Outrage!

I have enough amplifiers to do whatever I want with or without pedals.

I enjoy pedals in some applications and I know that's it's just taste. Nothing is right and nothing is wrong when it comes to taste.

There is nothing deceptive in the way the amp description is written. I've had 14 year old students who would understand the product offering.

I don't know anyone who would think that a TS9 is a device that has tubes in it.

Your rant is odd.

[bluescube]

I really like my tsa15. By going into the efx return you bypass the ts808 and it is all tube amp at that point, and it is killer!

[sacrificetravis]

Haha well since were being technical... unless your amp has a tube rectifier then your amps not all tube... so I guess the vast majority of us who can't afford vintage or boutique amps don't really have tube amps or we were all mislead. Sorry had to say it but I disagree. Its a tube amp with digital effect. What's wrong with that?

[waparker4]

Originally Posted by sacrificetravis

Its a tube amp with digital effect. What's wrong with that?

No. Solid state =analog

[sacrificetravis]

Just saying fender did it on their vintage modified amps and epiphone did it on one of the valve series. I'd bet that this TS sounds wayy better than any of these "effects" that is if it truly is a ts808 circuit in there.

Its like saying that its not reverb unless its tube driven reverb.

[printer2]

Wonder if you can make a tube Tubescreamer?

[AllroyPA]

Originally Posted by printer2

Wonder if you can make a tube Tubescreamer?

It's the Duncan Twin Tube Classic Overdrive Pedal

[backline]

Features
Genuine Tube Screamer circuit built into the front end
5W all tube combo
1 -12AX7 preamp tube
1 – 6V6 power tube
1 – 10” Celestion speaker

I would think this is a great amp for A LOT of players. How many times a month, does somebody ask of the Forum, "Recommend Me An Amp For Home Use".
Seems like this would be a great deal for a lot of guys. Even better if they have no quality/reliability issues.
best

[Dave_O]

Originally Posted by muchxs

How's it "all tube"? Last time I checked a Tube Screamer is a solid state device. That's right, folks. Engage the Tube Screamer and you hear transistors.

Kinda like those folks that spend a fortune on a hand-wired booteek amp and then buy booteek pedals that have *GASP* transistors in them? Eediots...

Originally Posted by muchxs

It's a Champ with a Tube Screamer in front of it.

Except way cheaper. I take it you're talking about a "Fender Champ" and not that anaemic toy called a "Champion 600"?

I've got a TSA15 head with the 1 x 12" cab.
Reliable? So far, after 12 months of gigging mine's been great.
Modding? No need to mod it. It sounded good to me out of the box. My bandmates concur.
And other guitarists have asked me about "the little white booteek amp".

Haven't even changed the valves yet.