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Scotty 2 · February 27th, 2012, 11:37 AM

Hi Guys,,As the Blues Deluxe has a Jr,,In YOUR opinion,,would you call
the Princeton Reverb a Jr.of the Deluxe Reverb??What are the "pros & cons"
of your opinion?

uriah1 · February 27th, 2012, 11:55 AM

Nope. Diff circuits, diff amps.

telex76 · February 27th, 2012, 12:07 PM

No. Not anymore than you could call a Pro a Twin Jr.

The Blues Deluxe doesn't have a Jr. anyway.
It's a Blues Jr.

Chiogtr4x · February 27th, 2012, 12:14 PM

The Princeton Reverb is closer to being a Jr. to a DR (no?) than the other amps cited as they are different circuits/power tubes too...

Could you think of the PR as as being a "one-channel(Vibrato) DR?" (albeit with less power, the 10" vs.12" speaker, and the PR's particular tremolo circuit), or am OFF here?

Scotty 2 · February 27th, 2012, 12:18 PM

It must be Jr. to something or it wouldn't be a Jr.would it?

telex76 · February 27th, 2012, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty 2

It must be Jr. to something or it wouldn't be a Jr.would it?

No. Just like the Hot Rod Deluxe has almost nothing in common with a Deluxe or a Deluxe Reverb.
Fender just sticks names on them. Sometimes without any logical reason it seems to me.
The Pro Jr. is nothing like a Pro or Pro Reverb.

supersam · February 27th, 2012, 12:47 PM

Honestly, I feel like all of the blackface/silverface amps sound very similar, with the obvious difference in power. They all have different characteristics due to different circuits, power ratings, speaker configurations, etc. But they still all sound like different variations of the same amp to me. The Champ is the baby, Princeton is the Jr, then the Deluxe, Vibrolux, Pro, Super, Twin, etc. They all behave differently due to the circuits and size, but personally, I'd consider them in the same family. I have a Princeton that I play with 99% of the time, and I played a friends Deluxe Reverb at a show recently and I feel like my tone was pretty much the same. I could hear myself better onstage due to the fact that it's more powerful and a bigger speaker, but really think my tone was very similar.

So long story short, and I know I'm in the minority, but I'll vote for the Princeton being the Jr of the Deluxe. They sound a little different, but close enough to me.

paulitik · February 27th, 2012, 01:13 PM

If there was a Deluxe Reverb Jr, I'd be very interested in it.

Fearnot · February 27th, 2012, 03:10 PM

I'd still want a 12" speaker.

milocj · February 27th, 2012, 07:56 PM

As was mentioned a little above, there are some small (and noticeable to most ears) differences, but I also think the PR is pretty close to a single channel DR, especially with all the good high efficiency 10" speakers available.

Its a tiny bit darker, and the phase inverter and circuit differences cause it to break up earlier and in a little bit mushier way, but within its volume limits I don't think many people listening from another room could hear much difference.

I can play mine in a small bar with a drummer that plays normally and two other guitarists with DRs and keep up no problem. The biggest thing I've noticed is that once you get into the '70s models the volume pots seem to have a different taper. Zero to four on a newer one is about the same as zero to 7.5 or 8 on my mid to late '60s versions. That tends to make it seem like they have no headroom if you're used to being able to use more of the dial.

DaBender · February 27th, 2012, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersam

So long story short, and I know I'm in the minority, but I'll vote for the Princeton being the Jr of the Deluxe. They sound a little different, but close enough to me.

Well, your minority is growing.

3 Chord · February 27th, 2012, 09:52 PM

A deluxe jr sounds like something on a Burger King menu.

(mmmmm, buurrgers)!

musicmatty · February 27th, 2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 Chord

A deluxe jr sounds like something on a Burger King menu.(mmmmm, buurrgers)!

: lol:

dog fart · February 27th, 2012, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 Chord

A deluxe jr sounds like something on a Burger King menu.

(mmmmm, buurrgers)!

I can't stand Burger King but I would kill for a Cheese Burger right now. Where did I put my keys?

RubyRae · February 27th, 2012, 10:33 PM

Allen Amplification Accomplice Jr.

OaklandA · February 28th, 2012, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telex76

No. Just like the Hot Rod Deluxe has almost nothing in common with a Deluxe or a Deluxe Reverb.
Fender just sticks names on them. Sometimes without any logical reason it seems to me.
The Pro Jr. is nothing like a Pro or Pro Reverb.

Actually the Blues Junior was originally marketed as a smaller version of the Blues Deluxe in the Hot Rod Series.

February 27th, 2012, 11:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
Scotty 2 Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ft.Pierce,Florida Posts: 653	Deluxe Reverb Jr.?? Hi Guys,,As the Blues Deluxe has a Jr,,In YOUR opinion,,would you call the Princeton Reverb a Jr.of the Deluxe Reverb??What are the "pros & cons" of your opinion? __________________ And the Tele said; Why is everybody always pickin on me

February 27th, 2012, 11:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
uriah1 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: toledo Posts: 6,010	Nope. Diff circuits, diff amps. __________________ When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. Mark Twain

February 27th, 2012, 12:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chiogtr4x Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manassas Park, VA Age: 54 Posts: 3,331	The Princeton Reverb is closer to being a Jr. to a DR (no?) than the other amps cited as they are different circuits/power tubes too... Could you think of the PR as as being a "one-channel(Vibrato) DR?" (albeit with less power, the 10" vs.12" speaker, and the PR's particular tremolo circuit), or am OFF here? __________________ Tele/Tex-Mex Strat/Dano '56 U2>MHP "Stubble Trouble" FUZZ/MHP "perfected" GFS Brownie Classic/Barber Direct Drive/Blues Driver> MORE PEDALS> '68 Deluxe Reverb or blonde Blues Jr. Rock On!

February 27th, 2012, 12:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scotty 2 Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ft.Pierce,Florida Posts: 653	It must be Jr. to something or it wouldn't be a Jr.would it? __________________ And the Tele said; Why is everybody always pickin on me

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Fearnot Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 1,706	I'd still want a 12" speaker. __________________ "No, I can make any guitar sound lousy." -R. Nielsen

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February 27th, 2012, 12:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
telex76 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fort Worth,Tx. Age: 62 Posts: 9,035	No. Not anymore than you could call a Pro a Twin Jr. The Blues Deluxe doesn't have a Jr. anyway. It's a Blues Jr.

February 27th, 2012, 12:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
supersam Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lansing, MI Age: 32 Posts: 415	Honestly, I feel like all of the blackface/silverface amps sound very similar, with the obvious difference in power. They all have different characteristics due to different circuits, power ratings, speaker configurations, etc. But they still all sound like different variations of the same amp to me. The Champ is the baby, Princeton is the Jr, then the Deluxe, Vibrolux, Pro, Super, Twin, etc. They all behave differently due to the circuits and size, but personally, I'd consider them in the same family. I have a Princeton that I play with 99% of the time, and I played a friends Deluxe Reverb at a show recently and I feel like my tone was pretty much the same. I could hear myself better onstage due to the fact that it's more powerful and a bigger speaker, but really think my tone was very similar. So long story short, and I know I'm in the minority, but I'll vote for the Princeton being the Jr of the Deluxe. They sound a little different, but close enough to me.

February 27th, 2012, 01:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
paulitik Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 102	If there was a Deluxe Reverb Jr, I'd be very interested in it.

February 27th, 2012, 07:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
milocj Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,955 3 Photos	As was mentioned a little above, there are some small (and noticeable to most ears) differences, but I also think the PR is pretty close to a single channel DR, especially with all the good high efficiency 10" speakers available. Its a tiny bit darker, and the phase inverter and circuit differences cause it to break up earlier and in a little bit mushier way, but within its volume limits I don't think many people listening from another room could hear much difference. I can play mine in a small bar with a drummer that plays normally and two other guitarists with DRs and keep up no problem. The biggest thing I've noticed is that once you get into the '70s models the volume pots seem to have a different taper. Zero to four on a newer one is about the same as zero to 7.5 or 8 on my mid to late '60s versions. That tends to make it seem like they have no headroom if you're used to being able to use more of the dial.

February 27th, 2012, 09:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
3 Chord Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Billings MT Age: 46 Posts: 3,317	A deluxe jr sounds like something on a Burger King menu. (mmmmm, buurrgers)!

February 27th, 2012, 10:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
RubyRae Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati Age: 37 Posts: 3,230 2 Photos	Allen Amplification Accomplice Jr.

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