classic 30, how many use effects loop?

nocasterbert · April 15th, 2005, 02:50 PM

i own a PV classic 30 for 2 years and i`m very happy with that amp.
i always plug in my pedalboard as i do it with my twin, straight in the input jack.
i know the amp has an effects loop but that takes one more cable.
do you guys have experience if the loop is worth the extra effort?

bigdog · April 15th, 2005, 10:30 PM

I have had great success and like the tone more so when using the loop for single effects, chains/ boards or as I am now using an old Digitech RP-1 multieffects unit. By using the loop you can tailor your sound prior to the effects and get a solid hold on your base tone before the coloring by pedals either on or in by-pass mode.

Joe-Bob · April 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM

Would distortion pedals work in the loop too?

bigdog · April 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM

Anything that works in front will work in the loop. Just follow normal protocol for lining up your effects and drop them in the loop.

Ben Harmless · April 16th, 2005, 10:43 AM

I'm assuming here that the Classic 30 loop is like most, and in series between the pre and power stages of the amp. In this case, I wound't really reccomend running distortion in the loop, as those boxes are really designed to go into the front of the amp, and then be subject to the preamp tone controls. You may also have a hard time adjusting the effect to the higher signal level (line usually) of the loop, as distortion boxes are designed to run with insturment level signals.

Most choose to run time based effects into the loop if they are using any sort of preamp distortion at all. That way the reverb, delay, etc. can effect the whole tone, including dirt. The same goes for EQs. Some like to run them in front to EQ the guitar signal that the whole amp hears, and others like them in the loop to tailor the already dirtified tone. Of course, if you're running the amp wide open, the power tubes will be distorting anyway, and there's nothing you can do, aside from adding effects at the sound board, to get past that. Most people don't seem to mind though.

Either way, I reccomend trying all sorts of setups to get the tone you're looking for. Just remember that not everything behaves well in the loop.

nocasterbert · April 16th, 2005, 04:42 PM

thanks guys, i`ll give it a try,with the loop, although i`m pretty satisfied with the way i used my pedal board so far.

April 15th, 2005, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
nocasterbert Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland Age: 47 Posts: 409 3 Photos	classic 30, how many use effects loop? i own a PV classic 30 for 2 years and i`m very happy with that amp. i always plug in my pedalboard as i do it with my twin, straight in the input jack. i know the amp has an effects loop but that takes one more cable. do you guys have experience if the loop is worth the extra effort?

April 15th, 2005, 10:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigdog Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 126	Definitely give it a try ! I have had great success and like the tone more so when using the loop for single effects, chains/ boards or as I am now using an old Digitech RP-1 multieffects unit. By using the loop you can tailor your sound prior to the effects and get a solid hold on your base tone before the coloring by pedals either on or in by-pass mode.

April 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Joe-Bob Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 4,016	Would distortion pedals work in the loop too? __________________ "German is the language God uses when He really means business." --FZ

April 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
bigdog Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 126	Yep ! Anything that works in front will work in the loop. Just follow normal protocol for lining up your effects and drop them in the loop.

April 16th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ben Harmless Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany, NY US of A Posts: 3,374 12 Photos	I'm assuming here that the Classic 30 loop is like most, and in series between the pre and power stages of the amp. In this case, I wound't really reccomend running distortion in the loop, as those boxes are really designed to go into the front of the amp, and then be subject to the preamp tone controls. You may also have a hard time adjusting the effect to the higher signal level (line usually) of the loop, as distortion boxes are designed to run with insturment level signals. Most choose to run time based effects into the loop if they are using any sort of preamp distortion at all. That way the reverb, delay, etc. can effect the whole tone, including dirt. The same goes for EQs. Some like to run them in front to EQ the guitar signal that the whole amp hears, and others like them in the loop to tailor the already dirtified tone. Of course, if you're running the amp wide open, the power tubes will be distorting anyway, and there's nothing you can do, aside from adding effects at the sound board, to get past that. Most people don't seem to mind though. Either way, I reccomend trying all sorts of setups to get the tone you're looking for. Just remember that not everything behaves well in the loop. __________________ "I think I'll go for the life of sin, followed by the last-minute, presto-change-o, deathbed repentance." - B. Simpson

April 16th, 2005, 04:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
nocasterbert Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland Age: 47 Posts: 409 3 Photos	thanks guys, i`ll give it a try,with the loop, although i`m pretty satisfied with the way i used my pedal board so far.