Brought my SF twin out of mothballs last week

[spankdplank]

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[dmarcus30]

Originally Posted by sandman72202

been playing my twin off and on all week with my other amps, ive had the twin almost the longest
my main amps

Lil' Dawg deluxe with a little bigger OP section going through a jensen P15
with that i have a matching jbl D130 i run with it

kalamazoo reverb 12 with a vintage jensen 10 in it

the more i play them all and a/b them
i'm wondering why i ever bought an amp after the twin.
the others sound great.....but the twin...even in a small room and turned low....just has a presence that the others can;t touch.
it fills the room and is so touch sensitive.

the more i play it the more i feel its the best amp i've ever played

never gonna get rid of that thing

Merry Christmas all

:)

Love my 73 SFTR that I had blackfaced by Kendrick Amps. It has an authority that I just love. For any TR lovers who also have a smaller amp (mine is a Kendrick BG 15) try this. Plug into Input 1 of the TR Vibrato channel and then run a patch cable from Input 2 over to your little amp's guitar input and then find the sweet spot where the volumes work nicely together.
What I get is the power and girth of the Twin and the sweet overdrive of the Kendrick floating on top. I don't have to turn up to pain level to get overdrive and I have the added advantage of pushing a lot of air through all 4 speakers. Two amps with dissimilar speakers is a GREAT tone. Do some web searches about phasing issues. I don't have them but they are easily correctable.

[CoolBlueGlow]

You think lugging a twin is bad? try toting my wife's 400PS. now THAT'S a load. In fact it weighs more than my wife - which is actually pretty nice, come to think of it. :-)

But in the same vein as "nothing sounds like a Twin", nothing else sounds quite like six 6550's on a Jazz bass.

Do love my twins, though. They cut through.

Merry Christmas, all

[dmarcus30]

Originally Posted by CoolBlueGlow

You think lugging a twin is bad? try toting my wife's 400PS. now THAT'S a load. In fact it weighs more than my wife - which is actually pretty nice, come to think of it. :-)

But in the same vein as "nothing sounds like a Twin", nothing else sounds quite like six 6550's on a Jazz bass.

Do love my twins, though. They cut through.

Merry Christmas, all

Big +1 on the JB and 6550's. That's what Captain Beefheart's bassist was sporting when I saw him many years ago. Best bass sound onstage I've EVER heard! Punishingly loud band, too.

[joshigh]

Originally Posted by zoppotrump

i´m not a bodybuilder too, but since i bought my 72 SFTR, i gig it constantly = times a month and a good flightcase with decent big rolls is as good as a handcart.

I agree on the flight case. I had a Bad Cat Black Cat 30R that was a heavy sumbich. I had it in a really nice road case which helped a lot. It had those nice blue casters and had handles all over it to help get it up into trunks/trucks and stairs. Getting it up stairs was still a two person job though.

I've been thinking of getting a Twin and if I did I'd go for a cheaper/thinner case with good casters to save weight.

[Big_Bend]

Nice thread bump.


I bought a 65 Twin at the end of 2011. Not a 65 Reissue.. a real 1965 Twin! Amazing amp. Wish I had bought it 30 years ago and not had like 20 other amps in the mean time.

And last week my good friend just bought a 1975 SFTR for $700 on CL and he totally loves it too. Nothing like a Twin.

[SoK66]

Weight, heck. Back in the late 60s/early 70s I stuffed a SFTR w/JBLs into the back of a VW Beetle and drove to gigs, pulled it out of there and onto a stage, played the giag and reversed toe process. Yad to carry it up stairs occasionally. I weighed about 128lbs then IIRC. No cart, no wheels, just my skinny arse. Real men play Twins...sorta.

[dragonbat13]

I have had a twin for almost twenty years. The twin is heavy AND BULKY. That is why it is so hard to move. And a super reverb is worse.

[jh45gun]

Like has been stated before IF you play in a band you move PA Speakers, Bass Rigs and Rack Mount PA gear that is bulkier and heavier than a Twin so I cannot see the issue for a gigging musician.

[tele salivas]

If I carry I twin, I don't feel the need to help with the PA cause I ain't using it. But I still help with the Pa. At least no drummer or BassPlayer is getting over on me, dangblum SOB's. Yeah, a Twin Reverb is the best. I have a 73 with Master Volume which is grea cause I can crank the MV and play low volume with a great sound. and damn if the microphones don't love a Twin getting all electified.

[jh45gun]

In any band I have played in every one helps with the equipment no matter WHO owns it. I look at it this way the sum of the sound that makes you get paid depends on all the equipment from the PA to the Drums to the guitars and amps.

[vjf1968]

Originally Posted by jh45gun

Like has been stated before IF you play in a band you move PA Speakers, Bass Rigs and Rack Mount PA gear that is bulkier and heavier than a Twin so I cannot see the issue for a gigging musician.

Well there are some factors to consider like stage size, size of the room, how many players. I still have a SFTR but there are no venues that I play that require the size of that amp, I would use my DRRI or my ZT Lunchbox stack. And some club owners and "sound people" cringe when they see the big amps roll in. It has gotten really bad here in Philly that some venues stopped having live music altogether due to noise restrictions

As for PA gear, a lot of the new stuff is a lot lighter than what was available 10 years ago.

[SPUDCASTER]

Originally Posted by jh45gun

A cart saves your back and why would any one leave their best sounding amp at home when you want to sound your best gigging. The Twin has a bad rap with this weight BS. I have posted the weights before and even a Bandit is well over 40 pounds. Other amps are heavier than the Twin yet only amp I see complaints about is the twin which is just nuts.

Couldn't agree more! Learned to use a cart years ago, plus it already has wheels.

I like the guy here that was wanting to get opinions on a Twin and most everyone jumped on the weight angle. He ended up with a Peavey Classic 50 (2-12's, I think) and it's only 4 or 5 lbs. difference in weight. Oh well.

These days I don't play alot of bigger gigs so the SFTR stays home quite a bit. I should get a power soak and break it out. The old Bandit or the Supro usually get the call now. Nothing sounds quite like that old Twin though.

At the end of the night even those are getting heavy. But guess what, I still got the cart!

[StephaninMelb]

There is no weight issue if the man says it is parked at home. So it is all about tone...

By comparison 69 lbs isn't that much..........

Super Six.........................98 lbs
Super Twin (180W / 2 x 12).95 lbs
Vibro King (3 x 10)..............72 lbs
Blackface Twin Reverb........69 lbs
Silverface Twin Reverb........69 lbs
Blackface Super Reverb.......60 lbs
Silverface Super Reverb.......86 lbs
Super Pro Tube.................. 60 lbs
Blackface Pro Reverb...........53 lbs
Blackface Deluxe Reverb.......37 lbs
Silverface Deluxe Reverb.......40 lbs
Blackface Vibrolux Reverb......40 lbs
Princeton Reverb II...............32 lbs
Deluxe Reverb II...................32 lbs
Super Champ........................29 lbs


Super Pro Tube 60 lbs

[StephaninMelb]

In a few years when everyone is at the old folks home you've got to wonder if you can put a trailer hitch on a electric scooter so you can drag the Twin around.

[Coop47]

Started playing my TRRI at home after a long layoff and fell in love with it all over again. A/B'd it with a friend's SFTR and - much to my surprise - preferred my TRRI. It sounded smoother, warmer and a bit more responsive, whereas the SFTR was a little harsh and barky. Both great amps though.

[jh45gun]

Originally Posted by Coop47

Started playing my TRRI at home after a long layoff and fell in love with it all over again. A/B'd it with a friend's SFTR and - much to my surprise - preferred my TRRI. It sounded smoother, warmer and a bit more responsive, whereas the SFTR was a little harsh and barky. Both great amps though.

Lots of factors here like has his SF been recapped? A cap job makes a difference as does newer speakers if the old ones are getting tired. Tubes only if the old ones may be bad as I feel the old tubes last a lot longer then many folks give them credit. Back in the old days TVs and Radios were on all day and half the night every day same with industrial tubes and they lasted and lasted.

[jh45gun]

Originally Posted by SPUDCASTER

Couldn't agree more! Learned to use a cart years ago, plus it already has wheels.

I like the guy here that was wanting to get opinions on a Twin and most everyone jumped on the weight angle. He ended up with a Peavey Classic 50 (2-12's, I think) and it's only 4 or 5 lbs. difference in weight. Oh well.

These days I don't play alot of bigger gigs so the SFTR stays home quite a bit. I should get a power soak and break it out. The old Bandit or the Supro usually get the call now. Nothing sounds quite like that old Twin though.

At the end of the night even those are getting heavy. But guess what, I still got the cart!

Yea Bandits are not lightweights they weigh about 40 pounds and for their size are heavy. Lets face it band gear for the most part is heavy and some times bulky I am talking gigging gear here not bedroom amps. I agree a cart is a good thing!

[jh45gun]

Stephen I doubt them guys lift anything anymore they have roadies for that!

[Green Lantern]

Originally Posted by jh45gun

Lots of factors here like has his SF been recapped? A cap job makes a difference as does newer speakers if the old ones are getting tired. Tubes only if the old ones may be bad as I feel the old tubes last a lot longer then many folks give them credit. Back in the old days TVs and Radios were on all day and half the night every day same with industrial tubes and they lasted and lasted.

Yes, something must certainly be wrong with that old amp for him to like the sound the Reissue more! There's no other explanation. [sarcasm]

I've personally found the Reissues to sound good and on a comparable level with the vintage amps.