Weber Speakers??????????????????????????

[Red Planet]

What are your favorites and why. Which ones do you use and in what amps and why?

What type of sounds are you going for?

[Led Hed]

I replaced the stock speaker in my C30 with a Weber 12F150, 50 watt, and had them put in a 30-ounce magnet instead of the 40-ounce. Also did a complete retube with JJ's from Eurotubes (just told Bob what I was looking for and he made recommendations on heat ratings, etc.). It's now a KILLER blues amp. The 30-ounce magnet was for less volume as I don't play out much and don't have the need for it (per Ted Weber's recommendation, he said it would be easier to get into power tube distortion with less volume from the speaker). He also said that "for a given power input, the 50 watt would be a little warmer and smoother."

This is the extent of my limited experience with Weber speakers (in a Peavey Classic 30), but I'm real pleased with the results. I was looking for warm and clean at lower volumes, the ability to get into power tube distortion with less volume from the speaker, playing mostly blues and classic rock.

[Red Planet]

I've got a 12F150 coming for my Carr Rambler. I'm interested in what its gonna sound like. After hearing some other speakers in it I decided the stock Kingpin aint my cup a tea. Got a Jensen in there right now.

Theyve got so many its kinda hard to tell which ones to go for first. I wanna try a Clifornia, Silver Bell, Blue Dawg, P12N........................

I dont know what got me on the speaker kick. Just is.

When your really cranking it and pushing overbearing explodo overdrive what does it sound like?

[RJT]

"Ted" WeberVST speakers are probably the best speaker presently made for vintage tone. They can be played right out of the box. To review them,, just go to his web page. He makes a speaker for about every occasion. 33 flavors. Basically speakers are either Ceramic, think loud, articulate, and big bottom end, and Alnico, think tweed tone. I've put dozens of them into custom amps I've built and vintage amps I've restored. As far as which is best.. You have to know what you want. If you don't, ask Ted and he'll tell you..

RJT

Originally Posted by Red Planet

What are your favorites and why. Which ones do you use and in what amps and why?

What type of sounds are you going for?

[Led Hed]

Theyve got so many its kinda hard to tell which ones to go for first. I wanna try a Clifornia, Silver Bell, Blue Dawg, P12N........................

Yeah, I know. The Blue Dog is one I've heard a lot of good things about. I'm thinking about ordering an unloaded Avatar 112 extension cabinet soon and I'll probably load it up with a Blue Dog.

When your really cranking it and pushing overbearing explodo overdrive what does it sound like?

Damn, I wish I could tell you. I have pretty severe hearing loss from way too many years of rock 'n roll, so I don't crank it up much anymore (hence the need for a speaker that sounds good at relatively low volumes). I've had the 30-watt amp up to about 7, and it blew me away how well the speaker responded when getting into some good power tube distortion, but I just can't play at that volume in the house for very long.

[PSWoods]

In general, best bet is to call him and tell him what you are trying to do and he will come up with the perfect match every time.

My personal fave at the moment is Cali 12 ceramic. Big, loud,good projection, versatile, are-tick-you-lit.

[stevedenver]

so give me a Weber speaker suitable for a 66 bandmaster with a 2x12 closed back-i like some break up and warmth

[mmahoney]

just checked the price on the 12A150B as a possible replacement in a Traynor CV40 and it's $170 US.

I'm sure it's a great speaker and Weber seems to be very popular here so can anyone suggest a lower priced Weber with similar ( alnico, early breakup) character?

thanks,
Mike

[Rusty]

those speakers make my amps really shine...

i have an alnico "R" 8 (A100???) in my tweed princeton and a ceramic "N" 10 in my (F150???) in my SF princeton reverb...those amps sound their best with webers. descriptions on the website are perfectly accurate and the characteristics of the speakers perfectly compliment the characteristics of the amp to get my ideal tweed and bf/sf sounds! i'm hooked!

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by stevedenver

so give me a Weber speaker suitable for a 66 bandmaster with a 2x12 closed back-i like some break up and warmth

ya know, i've always wanted to try a ceramic N along with a ceramic "blue dog" or something similar in a set-up like yours to get a unique mix out of one cabinet...ymmv

[JonesKY]

I'm another Weber California Ceramic w/Paper Dust Cover lover! 15" w/BF Bassman, 12" w/BF Deluxe Reverb, 10" w/BF Princeton.

[bluezguy]

I use Weber's P12QR Alnicos in my '65 Deluxe Reverbs. Early breakup and that fine, fine paper cone natural distortion makes my Tele stuff shine the way it's supposed to.
Do not use Humbuckers on this combination...my Firebird blew my first one. That was my fault, I shoulda known better. The speaker I chose was for single coils only and was slightly under-powered for the amp.
This was done intentionally to achieve earlier breakup at lower volume.
Ted Weber's speakers are a tough one to beat.
My style of playin' is in the shadows of Johnny Winter. 8)

[rmconner80]

The 30 and 50 watt alnico Blue Dogs are my favorite speakers.

I have the Silver Dog but it's a ceramic version. It sounds great with certain amps, and is wonderful mixed with an Alnico Blue. I don't really have the priveledge to entertain two amp setups or two speaker cabs though... so I use one Blue.

I've heard a C12NQ or something like that in Phil Jacoby's BFPR, and it was kickin' in it's own right - that amp sounds huge.

I like the Celestion G12H30 reissue, but otherwise I think I'm pretty much a WeberVST devotee for life.

[trag-o-caster]

Well, well....

I have a Cali ceramic 12 w/paper cap in a 68 DR, which I love, but now I'm thinking that it may be a bit too bright. The low end was VASTLY improved with the addition of this speaker though. I do love this speaker, but I may have it in the wrong amp - I haven't decided yet.

OTOH - I have the 12F150 in another 77 DR, and that seems to work real well. That speaker kinda rounds off the high end, while keeping good tight lows. This may be the one for DR's (which tend to be too bright, and too muddy as you turn the bass up).

I have a 10" ceramic Sig in my Peavey Classic 20. This is the budget Weber, and it made this amp COME ALIVE !

Hats off to Ted Weber also, for being a gentleman, and being honest. He talked me out of buying the more expensive alnico speaker, telling me that the DR's don't really have enough wattage to push an alnico magnet to the point where it makes any difference. I've spoke with him many times, and he's a great guy to do business with.

[GuitarG]

I'm using a pair of C12N's (12F150's) with a '63 Bassman that I built into a combo. I find them to be a good, clear, tight sounding speaker with a fat low end that doesn't get too sharp on the high end. The 12F150's are a great speaker for live work and they record really well. Previously I have used one with a blackfaced Deluxe with great results.
I also have a couple of 10F150's that I use in a Mesa Blue Angel 4x10" combo along with 2 alnicos.

[Bill Ashton]

in a '64-'65 Vox AC-4, to replace the tired old ELAC. At the time I got it, he didn't have an AlNiCo version...I really should try that...

[MV80]

I have just ordered a Weber 12F150W, 25 watts, 8 ohms, lightly doped for my DRRI. I want a big clear twang tone with my 52 RI Tele and that's what Ted recommend to me. I will give you feeback when installed.

[Tenbender]

I put a Weber 15" California in my Twin Reverb, there's no going back now, love it for pedal steel and even more with a Tele.

[Tremo]

I have a couple Weber P10Ns (10A150) in my 61 Super. They sound huge for 10 inchers. I've also heard his P12N (12A150) models and they are excellent for highwe powered Fenders in 2x12. Real smooth and huge low end. The 15" Cali is also very nice.

On a side note, Ted Weber was banned from posting on the EffDeePee. He refused to pay $200 per month for the priviledge of posting on the boards there. Not advertising, just posting answers to questions about his speakers, trying to be helpful to the EffDeePee'rs. I don't blame him, that seems like a ripoff in my opinion. What next?

[blungo2]

Just got a Weber Cali Alnico 12 for my old 1950s "detuned" Carlsom enclosure powered by a tweed bassman clone. Sounds mighty fine to me. The clean and gritty sounds are amazing. With fuzz, i'm hearing things i've never heard before. Defintitely a nice speaker/

[jdfoosh357]

I was looking for a speaker for my champ. Ted was very helpful. Email replies within minutes, good service, got my business easily.

[Paul in Colorado]

I only have one, an 8" signature series in my '52 Silvertone "Champ." It sounds great, especially with a lap steel. When I get a combo cabinet for my BMR I'm going to get a couple of his 10" speakers that are as close to vintage Jensens as possible.

[Kelsey]

I have a great 10F150T in my silverface Princeton and a ceramic Sig 8S in my blonde Gibson GA-5 Skylark (tweed champ). I just emailed Ted to inquire about a pair of 10's for my blackface/blonde Tremolux (he recommended another pair of 10F150T's), my tweed Gibson GA-18T Explorer (he recommended the 10A125), and my drip edge Champ (he recommended the alnico Sig 8S). The only one I'm waffling on is the alnico Sig 8s, since I've heard such great things on this board about the 8A125 in Champs. I could always try the Sig 8S and change to the 8A125 later if need be, since I could always save the Sig 8 for my Skylark.

Ted is great to deal with -- a straight shooter who knows his stuff, and his stuff be good.

[tjalla]

I pay up to US$80 to airfreight ONE speaker to this side of the world, and I believe the Webers are still worth it.

I've tried -

C10Q (10F125)
P10Q (10A125)
C12N (12F150)
C12B
P12QR (12A125-O)
P12RT (12A100-T)

Plus, I'm soon to try out a P15N

By comparison, the Reverend (1250), Eminence (10" Legends) and Mojotone (Blackbeauty) I've tried are good, but they invariably get replace by a Weber - more tone and efficiency.

That said I'm also quite happy with a Jensen RI P12N right now. I haven't tried Webers version yet, but I do plan to in the future.

[Brick]

A Weber California 15 w paper dust cap is a wonderful thing when driven by a 66 Bassman. Friends go nuts over the bottom available from this speaker, and it has plenty of sparkle.

[KBR]

As good friend RJT, below posts, Weber VST makes the best vintage sounding speakers today.

I currently use 2 P12Ns in an open back cab and a P12N & a P12Q in another cab, using either my Old Flame head or the Brown Sugar head, I am very pleased with thew Tone they produce. 8) 8)

I have also had excellent tones w/ a CA 15 paper dust cap and in a 4x10 cab 2 P10-Qs/ 2 P10Rs.
To me, unless you have original Jensens, Weber's rule, IMHO.

8)