Pic of my champ

papejazzer · January 5th, 2005, 08:48 AM

Have any idea what year this may be? I am thinking late 60's. It has the tail on the Fender logo.

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weelie · January 5th, 2005, 08:50 AM

Do you have a picture of the tube chart inside the amp chassis?

http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/serial_numbers_1.html
http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/serial_numbers_2.html
http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/serial_numbers_3.html
http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/serial_numbers_4.html
http://www.mrgearhead.com/faq/ampdater.html
http://www.classamp.com/date.html

jb1911 · January 5th, 2005, 08:50 AM

What's the serial number? I can tell you what year it is from that. It's an "A" followed by 5 digits on the right rear of the chassis.

papejazzer · January 5th, 2005, 09:05 AM

I am not home at this time. Will post some pics and serial # later today. Was ther certain years that had the tail on the logo?
Thanks

Joe-Bob · January 5th, 2005, 08:31 PM

I think the tail on the logo went away in '74 or '75.

papejazzer · January 5th, 2005, 08:52 PM

The serial # is A17696
thanks

Sidney Vicious · January 6th, 2005, 12:32 AM

I have its twin in very good original condition. Very sweet amps, in my book. The circuit and build quality of the blackface and dripedge silverface but less collectible and so cheaper. Mine is A18052. Based on the serial numbers I believe they are from 1970, although the link I use has moved on me.

Mur · January 6th, 2005, 01:47 AM

I like Champs, and gig with 'em! :)
http://www.clarencewhiteforum.com/pics/5.jpg

David Barnett · January 6th, 2005, 02:42 AM

Does the AC cord have a plug with 2-pins or 3-pins?

Sidney Vicious · January 6th, 2005, 12:22 PM

I found the link:

http://www.tcguitar.com/articles/gagliano_pt5.html

Quoting from it:

Champ AA764 (blackface)
A00100 to A02000 - 1964
A01900 to A05200 - 1965
A05200 to A12000 - 1966
A12000 to A12200 - 1967

Champ AA764 (silverface)
A12200 to A13900 - 1968
A13900 to A18000 - 1969
A18000 to A30500 - 1970
A30500 to A32000 - 1971
A32000 to A35000 - 1972
A32000 to A42000 - 1973
A42000 to A50000 - 1974
A50000 to A63000 - 1975
A63000 to A85000 - 1976

I believe it would indicate your amp is a '69. Bear in mind, though, that I understand the serial number dating to be ball park figuring to some degree.

Echorec · January 6th, 2005, 12:31 PM

Looks like a late 69 or 70. My SFDR has the same features, but is a mishmash of different parts: 69 transformers, no drip edge, 68 caps, stamped 1970 inside the chassis, Fender with tail, and "amp" on the faceplate.

papejazzer · January 6th, 2005, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Barnett

Does the AC cord have a plug with 2-pins or 3-pins?

It still has the two prong plug. Which I plan on replacing with a three prong to keep from getting fried.

Sidney Vicious · January 6th, 2005, 03:26 PM

Mine has a black three-prong that I always assumed was original to the amp - what was being used in 1970? Anybody know? I thought red plugs were mid to late '70's?

David Barnett · January 6th, 2005, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney Vicious

Mine has a black three-prong that I always assumed was original to the amp - what was being used in 1970? Anybody know? I thought red plugs were mid to late '70's?

I think the red plugs were used when they first went to grounded plugs.

I will confess that I haven't put grounded AC cords on any of my vast collection (3) of vintage amps yet. But I do use an AC voltmeter to measure the potential between the amp chassis and anything grounded (like a microphone) and reverse the plug and/or switch the "death switch" if necessary to find the best compromise.

BLACKCAT69 · January 7th, 2005, 11:18 AM

IE: You buy a 2005 car in the 2004 calendar year?

January 5th, 2005, 08:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
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January 5th, 2005, 09:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
papejazzer Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 120	I am not home at this time. Will post some pics and serial # later today. Was ther certain years that had the tail on the logo? Thanks __________________ Can You Play Freebird On That?

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Joe-Bob Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 4,017	I think the tail on the logo went away in '74 or '75. __________________ "German is the language God uses when He really means business." --FZ

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papejazzer Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 120	The serial # is A17696 thanks __________________ Can You Play Freebird On That?

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jb1911 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago area Posts: 92	What's the serial number? I can tell you what year it is from that. It's an "A" followed by 5 digits on the right rear of the chassis.

January 6th, 2005, 12:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sidney Vicious Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Posts: 1,246 13 Photos	I have its twin in very good original condition. Very sweet amps, in my book. The circuit and build quality of the blackface and dripedge silverface but less collectible and so cheaper. Mine is A18052. Based on the serial numbers I believe they are from 1970, although the link I use has moved on me.

January 6th, 2005, 01:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mur Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 772	I like Champs, and gig with 'em! :) http://www.clarencewhiteforum.com/pics/5.jpg

January 6th, 2005, 02:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LIttle Rock, AR Age: 52 Posts: 5,494	Does the AC cord have a plug with 2-pins or 3-pins?

January 6th, 2005, 12:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sidney Vicious Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Posts: 1,246 13 Photos	Serial number dating link. I found the link: http://www.tcguitar.com/articles/gagliano_pt5.html Quoting from it: Champ AA764 (blackface) A00100 to A02000 - 1964 A01900 to A05200 - 1965 A05200 to A12000 - 1966 A12000 to A12200 - 1967 Champ AA764 (silverface) A12200 to A13900 - 1968 A13900 to A18000 - 1969 A18000 to A30500 - 1970 A30500 to A32000 - 1971 A32000 to A35000 - 1972 A32000 to A42000 - 1973 A42000 to A50000 - 1974 A50000 to A63000 - 1975 A63000 to A85000 - 1976 I believe it would indicate your amp is a '69. Bear in mind, though, that I understand the serial number dating to be ball park figuring to some degree.

January 6th, 2005, 12:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Echorec TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 81	Looks like a late 69 or 70. My SFDR has the same features, but is a mishmash of different parts: 69 transformers, no drip edge, 68 caps, stamped 1970 inside the chassis, Fender with tail, and "amp" on the faceplate.

January 6th, 2005, 03:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sidney Vicious Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Posts: 1,246 13 Photos	Mine has a black three-prong that I always assumed was original to the amp - what was being used in 1970? Anybody know? I thought red plugs were mid to late '70's?

January 7th, 2005, 11:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
BLACKCAT69 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada-Windsor-Ont. Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 5 Photos	Is this dating system similar to automobiles... IE: You buy a 2005 car in the 2004 calendar year? __________________ http://www.lukefisher.com/blame.wav