Aha! (5E3 content)

Lance · September 18th, 2004, 07:10 AM

Well, playing with the band with my BF '65 DR was getting me nervous - but I love that sound.

Last night, I brough the Mission 5E3 that I built with the 15" Jensen. I added my Weber MiniMass to keep the volume down. Last week, I picked up an EH Holy Grail reverb as I love reverb and the 5E3 doesn't have reverb.

Anyway, I think I found something that works. The tone was unreal and just got fatter and fatter as the night went on (I had to keep backing off the Mass as the amp got cooking). The Holy Grail sounded great. It adds a little hiss but nothing more than the hiss I get from my BF DR's reverb. The only pedal necessary was my Klon. I pulled the Keely Rat to make room for the EH HG. I even pulled my beloved Z Vex SHO - (ya can't say a 5E3 needs any more boost eh?). The volume knob cleaned things up nicely....the Klon added the over the top sound.

I did have to get the amp off the floor for it to sound right but that just added some fun playing with feedback. The 15" Jensen just kicked butt.

Anyway - problem solved....rig is much simpler...tone to die for. Fear of trashing my vintage amp gone.

Tele295 · September 19th, 2004, 09:12 PM

1x15 5E3 is my dream amp! 8)

Jef · September 20th, 2004, 10:28 AM

Lance,

Which Jensen 15 inch speaker do you have in your 5e3? I'm considering a 15 inch cab for my Mission tweedy deluxe as well...

Jef

BobbyB · September 20th, 2004, 03:15 PM

Lance,
I love my 5e3...got a 12inch Celestion Blue in mine and a Weber mini mass. What a great sound. Definitely NOT blackface but soooo creamy...sustainy...crunchy..bluezey.

Lance · September 20th, 2004, 05:24 PM

It's a P15 Jensen.

See this thread for more info:

http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t=4354&highlight=5e3

Just an FYI....we're talking about a more expensive speaker and custom cabinet...it'll cost more. (worth it!) The 15 really does kick. I've been playing with the amp on a barstool....it's great fun to turn around and point my tele right into all that air!

Mur · September 21st, 2004, 02:16 AM

Great amps (even without reverb and pedals). :)

http://www.singinjane.com/

Tele295 · September 21st, 2004, 12:04 PM

Lance - if you don't mind me asking, what did the Ampwares cabinet run you?

Lance · September 21st, 2004, 08:12 PM

I think I posted it at some time....but - I think the Weber kits are probably the best deal right now. See the Victoria thread nearby....

halouis · September 22nd, 2004, 09:21 AM

Lances' amp sounds AWESOME! i've had the pleasure of plugging into it.

bgood · September 25th, 2004, 07:24 PM

I've been following several discussions on the kits for this amp and I had come questions. I've never built an amp before but I am pretty confident that I could pull it off with the right kit and good instructions - and a phone for help. ????

1. Is it realistic to think I could do it myself - soldering experience=some guitar work (PUPS, Pots etc)
2. If I can pull it off with a kit. What will this amp give me in terms of blues gig type volumes in small venues (40x40 room, reasonably loud drummer, guitar and bass)

I have a Blues Jr that I'm somewhat happy with but I find that it doesn't have the raw power I need to have a consistent- cut through the mix - blues amp. Some nights it's there and others it's not. In addition, I have a jones for a new amp and project. What do you guys think?

Mur · September 26th, 2004, 04:16 AM

A loud drummer will ruin it (won't hear the amp) ..but with a good drummer, 5E3 sounds awesome.

Cliff · September 26th, 2004, 04:43 AM

I put together one of Bruce's 5E3 kits and put in a Celestion Blue, which is a pretty efficient speaker. I have no problem gigging with it. I play in a 5-piece blues band, small venues, and I can't crank it all the way, as it's too loud. Not a lot of clean headroom, mind you, but heck, it's a blues band isn't it?

I should mention that I recently modified the amp to run with 6L6's....just for fun and to find out what it sounds like. I love the sound with 6L6's, but I'm still in the honeymoon period, so my opinion is not worth a lot at this point.

TT100 · September 28th, 2004, 02:17 PM

I'm waiting for delivery of my Weber 5e3x2 kit and think it's going to sound pretty great driving my Sunn 115M bass cab. That cab does wonders with single coil guitars.

Cheers,
TT100
Memphis

September 18th, 2004, 07:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Lance Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,157	Aha! (5E3 content) Well, playing with the band with my BF '65 DR was getting me nervous - but I love that sound. Last night, I brough the Mission 5E3 that I built with the 15" Jensen. I added my Weber MiniMass to keep the volume down. Last week, I picked up an EH Holy Grail reverb as I love reverb and the 5E3 doesn't have reverb. Anyway, I think I found something that works. The tone was unreal and just got fatter and fatter as the night went on (I had to keep backing off the Mass as the amp got cooking). The Holy Grail sounded great. It adds a little hiss but nothing more than the hiss I get from my BF DR's reverb. The only pedal necessary was my Klon. I pulled the Keely Rat to make room for the EH HG. I even pulled my beloved Z Vex SHO - (ya can't say a 5E3 needs any more boost eh?). The volume knob cleaned things up nicely....the Klon added the over the top sound. I did have to get the amp off the floor for it to sound right but that just added some fun playing with feedback. The 15" Jensen just kicked butt. Anyway - problem solved....rig is much simpler...tone to die for. Fear of trashing my vintage amp gone. __________________ Lance "not very good...but I make up for it by playing loud"

September 19th, 2004, 09:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tele295 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tiger Town Posts: 3,235 14 Photos	1x15 5E3 is my dream amp! 8) __________________ "Turn it up and it doesn't need any reverb." - Danny Gatton www.dannygatton.info Tiger Town Aces - Music That Bites Back In Redd we trust! Free Bill Kirchen! If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and dry cleaners depressed?

September 20th, 2004, 03:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
BobbyB Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 207 2 Photos	5e3 ! Lance, I love my 5e3...got a 12inch Celestion Blue in mine and a Weber mini mass. What a great sound. Definitely NOT blackface but soooo creamy...sustainy...crunchy..bluezey. __________________ slip-slidin away___

September 20th, 2004, 05:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lance Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,157	Speaker.. It's a P15 Jensen. See this thread for more info: http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t=4354&highlight=5e3 Just an FYI....we're talking about a more expensive speaker and custom cabinet...it'll cost more. (worth it!) The 15 really does kick. I've been playing with the amp on a barstool....it's great fun to turn around and point my tele right into all that air! __________________ Lance "not very good...but I make up for it by playing loud"

September 21st, 2004, 02:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mur Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 772	5E3 . . . Great amps (even without reverb and pedals). :) http://www.singinjane.com/

September 20th, 2004, 10:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jef Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 670 1 Photos	Lance, Which Jensen 15 inch speaker do you have in your 5e3? I'm considering a 15 inch cab for my Mission tweedy deluxe as well... Jef

September 21st, 2004, 12:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tele295 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tiger Town Posts: 3,235 14 Photos	Lance - if you don't mind me asking, what did the Ampwares cabinet run you? __________________ "Turn it up and it doesn't need any reverb." - Danny Gatton www.dannygatton.info Tiger Town Aces - Music That Bites Back In Redd we trust! Free Bill Kirchen! If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and dry cleaners depressed?

September 21st, 2004, 08:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lance Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,157	I gotta find that.... I think I posted it at some time....but - I think the Weber kits are probably the best deal right now. See the Victoria thread nearby.... __________________ Lance "not very good...but I make up for it by playing loud"

September 22nd, 2004, 09:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
halouis Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,403 7 Photos	Lances' amp sounds AWESOME! i've had the pleasure of plugging into it.

September 25th, 2004, 07:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
bgood Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Emerson, NJ Posts: 164	5E3??? I've been following several discussions on the kits for this amp and I had come questions. I've never built an amp before but I am pretty confident that I could pull it off with the right kit and good instructions - and a phone for help. ???? 1. Is it realistic to think I could do it myself - soldering experience=some guitar work (PUPS, Pots etc) 2. If I can pull it off with a kit. What will this amp give me in terms of blues gig type volumes in small venues (40x40 room, reasonably loud drummer, guitar and bass) I have a Blues Jr that I'm somewhat happy with but I find that it doesn't have the raw power I need to have a consistent- cut through the mix - blues amp. Some nights it's there and others it's not. In addition, I have a jones for a new amp and project. What do you guys think? __________________ Bob

September 26th, 2004, 04:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mur Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 772	A loud drummer will ruin it (won't hear the amp) ..but with a good drummer, 5E3 sounds awesome.

September 26th, 2004, 04:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cliff Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Left Coast Posts: 168 3 Photos	5E3 I put together one of Bruce's 5E3 kits and put in a Celestion Blue, which is a pretty efficient speaker. I have no problem gigging with it. I play in a 5-piece blues band, small venues, and I can't crank it all the way, as it's too loud. Not a lot of clean headroom, mind you, but heck, it's a blues band isn't it? I should mention that I recently modified the amp to run with 6L6's....just for fun and to find out what it sounds like. I love the sound with 6L6's, but I'm still in the honeymoon period, so my opinion is not worth a lot at this point.

September 28th, 2004, 02:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
TT100 Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 214	I'm waiting for delivery of my Weber 5e3x2 kit and think it's going to sound pretty great driving my Sunn 115M bass cab. That cab does wonders with single coil guitars. Cheers, TT100 Memphis