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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For those of you with multiple amps of the same (or similar) wattage...

What's the point? What do you do? If you have an AC30 and a JTM45 which do you bring to gig/rehearsal and why? Does it change? Is it just a bout having different flavours? Is it slightly overboard luxury? I'd love to hear any and all thoughts you have on the subject.

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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, all of the above! :)

I do change between them. I go for a few months playing one, and then I may switch to a different one for awhile. Keeps things fresh, and more fun.
And luxury? Sure! I think having more then one Amp for work, is a luxury. Two does allow for a spare/backup in case something breaks.

But, it is also for those flavors you mentioned. My Budda Twinmaster has a type of "Mini-Marshall Stack" type of Tone, when needed. It also has a lot of the famous Vox Tones to it. Very forward and aggressive sounding. Also, a darker and warmer Tone.
The Carmen Ghia is something I'm still learning about. But, it has a cool Midrange to it's Tones. And I like how actively the Tone Control does control the Tones. Seems to be a type of Presence, as well as a "Tone" Knob.
The Torres Prince Tone Jr. can really nail those Princeton Reverb Tones. And it also uses EL84s! Plus, it has a great Reverb. Very small and easy to transport, also.
The Deluxe Reverb Clone I have, is just a beautiful sounding version of what it clones. Warm, warm, warm. And a totally different Timbre than the EL84 powered Amps, above.

Thoughts? Well, I'd like a few more Amps......................... ;)
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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What's the point? What do you do? If you have an AC30 and a JTM45 which do you bring to gig/rehearsal and why? Does it change? Is it just a bout having different flavours? Is it slightly overboard luxury? I'd love to hear any and all thoughts you have on the subject.
Yes, it's different flavors, but I'm thinning the herd because I agree with you that there's really no point in a way. In the 15-20 watt range, I've got an
Vox AC15TBX and a Gretsch Executive. Since I bought the Gretsch I've decided to sell the Vox and have just the Gretsch for my "20 watt range" amp. Then if I get another amp, it'll be a larger 35-50 watt amp. That way I've got amps for different situations rather than doubling up like I am now.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Is it just a bout having different flavours? Is it slightly overboard luxury?
Yes, yes.

I have more amps than I need or deserve. For me it's just curiosity, because they sound different. The watt rating is the least relevant spec between:

5w
  • Carvin Vintage 16 (set to 5w)
  • Epi Valve Jr
  • Fender Champion 600
  • Peavey JSX Mini
or 15w
  • Carvin Vintage 16 (set to 16w)
  • Fender BJr
  • Vox AD15VT

It's almost like asking "Why have several guitars with six strings?" A Tele? and a Strat? and a LP? and an SG? and a White Falcon?

Flavors and luxury. Not so much in the number of watts or strings.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, yes.

I have more amps than I need or deserve. For me it's just curiosity, because they sound different. The watt rating is the least relevant spec between:

5w
  • Carvin Vintage 16 (set to 5w)
  • Epi Valve Jr
  • Fender Champion 600
  • Peavey JSX Mini
or 15w
  • Carvin Vintage 16 (set to 16w)
  • Fender BJr
  • Vox AD15VT

It's almost like asking "Why have several guitars with six strings?" A Tele? and a Strat? and a LP? and an SG? and a White Falcon?

Flavors and luxury. Not so much in the number of watts or strings.
I can understand that but switching out a guitar while playing live is no big deal. Switching out an amp is slightly more problematic without an AB/Y (or something like that) and even then you're talking about (presumably) different cabs and a WHOLE lot more lifting than an extra guitar would entail.

Still thank you guys for these early answers and I'm looking forward to more!
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I'm guilty of this. I have 3 vintage Vox ac30s.

dr.z stangray, 30 watts
dr.z galaxie 30/40 watts
dr.z maz sr, 38 watts

btu each one has a unique tone, and is very different to the next.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's a disease. I rotate through all my amps, all get played some more than others, some I keep more for sentimental reasons than anything else. Some are just plain different and interesting.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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They're all different. It's not like I need any of them. It's nice to have a wide pallette of tones available and they all sound different even "identical" amps. If I have two of a kind I'll tweak one to do one thing and the other to do something else.
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What's the point? What do you do? If you have an AC30 and a JTM45 which do you bring to gig/rehearsal and why? Does it change? Is it just a bout having different flavours? Is it slightly overboard luxury? I'd love to hear any and all thoughts you have on the subject.
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I play only at home or with friends. I have mulitple 5 watt type amps and each sounds different. It keeps practicing fresh for me when I can switch guitars and amps. It is not needed, just nice to have.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 01:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I love to build tube amps, its a sick hobby, particularly since I can't play a single chord on a guitar.

My son however is an avid player, he's got last count 3 amps per guitar :)

There are 4 components to tone (speaking electric guitars here)

1 the guitar and cable
2 the amp and its settings
3 the speaker and cab.
4 the talent playing the guitar (most important)

so asking which amp do you bring is a lot like asking which guitar do you bring.

Sure you got your #1 axe ( a Tele I hope) and thats going to go with you, but would you leave your LP behind?

Player usually have a preference to a certain tone (tweed BF marshal vox etc) and they more often than not aquire amps that are needed. if you just noodle around the bedroom alot they will likely have 5 and 10 watt amps of various voicing.

gigging musicians will often have thier favorite tone say tweed and will have say a deluxe a pro and a twin to suit their different venues

I always try to steer musicians toward lower wattage amps and use a simple DI box to patch into a PA if all they need is an increase in volume.

the same amp you use in your bedroom can be the one you take to rehersal and again to perform.

I also believe that the lower wattage amps have so much more versitility in tone, often slight tweaks of the knobs (on the amp and guitar too) and playing style will give you SO many different voices. there too is a reason to have the amp you practice with be the same as the one you perform.

Now there is a conundrum do you have a DI box? or a PA?

If you can solder in and change out a pickup you can build a DI box that suits your PA for less than $20. I'll post a schematic and parts list if you're interested.

from your post I believe the answer is simple:

Feed your desire for GAS, buy a BIG van and take it all with you, just in case :)
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Old December 29th, 2009, 01:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I dunno, do you consider 22 and 30 watts "similar"? That's what I have (Fender PRII and Peavey Delta Blues 210) and I wouldn't give up either. As others have said, different flavours. Paradoxically, I think if I were a working musician, I would make a choice and either put away or give up one of them. But since it's just a hobby, I can indulge myself and change my sound whenever I feel like it.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 01:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I was using a 5e3 and a 18-watter on an a/b/y box for a year or so until I got tired of carrying and cabling. There were just some things one was better at than the other. I build my own amps, so why not? I didn't switch in a song, but basically I was using the 18-watter for soul stuff and the 5e3 for blues.

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Old December 29th, 2009, 01:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Or like having a 5E3 and a Deluxe Reverb. Completely different, though fun in stereo!

From a gigging standpoint, I don't really need more than one amp, except as a backup. I could do it all with my Vibrolux Reverb.
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I have 2 Deluxe Reverbs by accident; a friend gave me a DRRI last year and I already had my trusty old '65 DR.

I wish I had a PRRI instead. But since I routinely play with the person who gave me the DRRI, I feel uneasy about selling it for a PRRI.

I actually use the DRRI more than my old one these days - it sounds great and is less to fuss over.

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Old December 29th, 2009, 02:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm in the "because I can club" and also in the " because I want to" club. Also in the " can't say why" club....

I own a few different amps and tend to gig with the same one, generally.

Generally a Peavey Classic 30
( I have two don't ask why, see above reasoning)

The C30 covers most if not all rooms. We do not mic our amps so if I am in a much larger room I use the Hot Rod Deville 2x12.

If I do double duty, Pedal Steel and Tele, I use the HR Deville

If I play Steel only I drag out the Nashville 400.

Ok back to the original question of amps with similar wattage...

I just added a 73 Bandmaster, somewhere around 40 watts and a 64 Tremolux, somewhere around 35 watts to the collection. I doubt I will take those out all that much, I get more pleasure just messin' with them and looking at them although I did take the BM and a S12 cab to rehearsal the other day and it is a totally different sound than the C30.

I like em' all and at this point in my life I just feel like gettin' a few things even if they are to just look at !

The C30 will still be the go to amp for most gigs and rehearsals mostly because it can handle it and it is small and doesn't weigh much.

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My #1 is my Mission 5E3, this is my gig band amp. I have a C30 that I leave at church. I have a Peavey Bravo that I leave at our townhouse in Hayden Idaho along with a scaled down recording studio. I have a Roland Street Cube for busking. luxury you bet and I don't feel guilty. Could I live with only one? you bet. Kinda like a mechanic...can't have too many wrenches.

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BF Deluxe Reverb
BF Princeton Amp
Winfield Cyclone
Clark Beaufort
All roughly in the 15 - 22 watt range. Somewhat redundant, pointless, indulgent? Yes, all of the above. Also, fun.
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I have a Princeton Reverb and a Traynor YGM-3, both with single 12" speakers. The Traynor is a bit more powerful, but not a whole lot, and I mic them anyway...

Why two? They have different voices, it's nice to have an extra amp for guests, and sometimes stuff breaks!

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Old December 30th, 2009, 11:34 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Lets face it guitars and amps are not food, water, clothing or shelter so essentially even one of each is not needed per say but wanted. I'm knee deep in capitalism and therefore have been convinced that many things that I want are actual needs. So I guess the reason I have multiple guitars and amps that I don't need is because I want to. I like different sounds, the way they play (amps too) and the way they look. I'm a gear whore pretty much and just like having them laying around. I probably know more about gear than how to actually play the instrument!
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Old December 30th, 2009, 01:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Great answers here already..I was recently asking myself the same question when I purchased a 5E3 clone...I already have a Blues Jr. so I wondered now what was i going to do with two 12" speaker, 15 watt amps?? once I played the 5E3 clone I instantly realized that I had two completley different animals...choice=options=freedom in my opinion. :-)
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Old December 30th, 2009, 03:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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'98 Matchless Lightning 15W (stock)
'73 Traynor YGM-3 20W (incl C.Rex)

2 very different amps that can cover much of the same ground in slightly different ways.

Traynor does the reverby Santana/Peter Green tones, Lightning for mah blues a la Mayall, Clapton, Doyle Bramhall.

A/B'd but also serve as Back ups.
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Old December 30th, 2009, 04:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm very lucky to have even one amp, given today's economic realities. Luckier still to have several. In that sense, of course it's a luxury. If we're talking sound and music, then it's a pallette - different flavors and tonal capabilities.

Even more so than with guitars, I find that different amps can stimulate my musical imagination. That, plus the ability to gig and rehearse with suitable equipment, is what this is really all about.
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I have to agree with the OP,

I'm starting to gig/tour again so my rig will probably change to reflect that. None of my amps are the same size, I use them for different reasons.

My 12 watt BF Princeton I use for recording/backing up a pianist in a jazz/country combo unit
My 22 watt Deluxe Reverb(with a loud G12H speaker and JJ's for extra volume)I use in my crazy psychadelic art-rock band, recording, live practice, etc...
I also own a 50 watt Bassman RI if the Deluxe Reverb hasnt proved to be loud enough for every gig. Since the Deluxe Reverb is loud enough, i'll probably sell it sometime within the near future.

If your a home player or a hobbyist, having a bunch of similar amps can be a bit redundant but if your out there putting everything to good use then it can be a different story...If you build amps it can be a different story...
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2 more:

1) If you do a lot of home recording- either you or for others, having a selection of low watt amps helps a ton.

2) There are a lot of good deals out there- amps that can easily be resold for what you can bought them for or perhaps more. This means there is really no risk (rather, a potential for profit) and you get a toy to play with and decide if you want to keep it or one of your other amps when its time to pare down.
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