Celestion Alnico blue in twin reverb?

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 05:50 PM

Anyone put one or two of these in their twin? I'm just curious as to what you thought about the pairing. Thanks.

fezz parka · December 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM

You'll blow 'em up in a Twin Reverb. Go Celestion Gold.

tazzboy · December 27th, 2009, 05:57 PM

Agreed.

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fezz parka

You'll blow 'em up in a Twin Reverb. Go Celestion Gold.

they don't have higher wattage rated blues?

edit: weber does at least

Dr. Bill · December 27th, 2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by T_red7882

they don't have higher wattage rated blues?

edit: weber does at least

The Gold IS the higher wattage rated Blue.

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Bill

The Gold IS the higher wattage rated Blue.

I just figure weber charges less than celestion

muchxs · December 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM

The golds are still "only" a 50 watt speaker. The only thing worse than blowing a $250 speaker is blowing two $250 speakers.

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by muchxs

The golds are still "only" a 50 watt speaker. The only thing worse than blowing a $250 speaker is blowing two $250 speakers.

well, the ones at weber at are rated at 75watts and 100 watts, and i believe the ones at celestion (the true golds) are rated at 100. but, if the jbls are only rated at 60 watts, i figure its not likely to blow, right

edit: i guess they are only 50 watts. i want to have one jbl clone and one celestion blue, i think that would give me some sweet sound

fezz parka · December 27th, 2009, 07:17 PM

The Blues have paper formers and can't handle the heat. If you want to try AlNiCo's in a twin reverb, I'd at least use the Golds or the 50 watt Webers. Is this an 80 watt twin?

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fezz parka

The Blues have paper formers and can't handle the heat. If you want to try AlNiCo's in a twin reverb, I'd at least use the Golds or the 50 watt Webers. Is this an 80 watt twin?

its an 85 watt twin, but i also have a 135 watt vibrsonic reverb that i'd like to turn into a head to use with some different speaker combinations. I think the weber alnico blue dog (celestion blue clone) that are rated for 75 and/or 100 watts would work in a twin, don't you think?

fezz parka · December 27th, 2009, 07:24 PM

Sure. Webers are tough speakers, but I like the sound of the Celestions. The Golds would be fine in the Twin...

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fezz parka

Sure. Webers are tough speakers, but I like the sound of the Celestions. The Golds would be fine in the Twin...

honestly, do you think there's that much difference between webers clones and the celestions? i really don't know.

jefrs · December 27th, 2009, 07:49 PM

The Celestion Alnico Blue are rated at 15 watts and they mean 15 watts.
The Celestion Alnico Gold are rated at 50 watts.
http://professional.celestion.com/gu...nico/index.asp
The Twin is 85 watts into 4ohms. The speakers are 8ohm or 15ohm each.
A pair of Golds handles 100 watts, not much safety margin.

fezz parka · December 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by T_red7882

honestly, do you think there's that much difference between webers clones and the celestions? i really don't know.

I'm one of the few around here who doesn't like Webers. I think ( and this is my personal opinion, not a slam) the cones are too heavy and they take a really long time to break in and blossom.

I buy a lot of stuff from Weber, just not the speakers.

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fezz parka

I'm one of the few around here who doesn't like Webers. I think ( and this is my personal opinion, not a slam) the cones are too heavy and the take a really long time to break in and blossom.

fair enough

Maxwell Street · December 27th, 2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by muchxs

The golds are still "only" a 50 watt speaker. The only thing worse than blowing a $250 speaker is blowing two $250 speakers.

+$500.00 ka-blammy!

tazzboy · December 27th, 2009, 09:26 PM

If you going re speaker a Fender Twin Reverb I would do The Weber 12A150A at 50 watts in the vintage series.

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tazzboy

If you going re speaker a Fender Twin Reverb I would do The Weber 12A150A at 50 watts in the vintage series.

why is that?

Scott S · December 27th, 2009, 10:54 PM

Hmm, who wants to try a Twin into 6+ Celestion Blues? I'll bet that would be a glorious sound.

- Scott

T_red7882 · December 27th, 2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott S

Hmm, who wants to try a Twin into 6+ Celestion Blues? I'll bet that would be a glorious sound.

- Scott

sounds like an experiment for one of those silver face super 6 amps

muchxs · December 28th, 2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by T_red7882

sounds like an experiment for one of those silver face super 6 amps

Super Sixes use 10"s. Think of it as an oversized Super Reverb...

There was one for sale down in Austin w/ 6x10" JBLs.

A Quad Reverb is big enough. That's a "Twin" combo 4x12"...

tazzboy · December 28th, 2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by T_red7882

why is that?

Because Weber 12A150A is base on the Jensen P12N Speakers from the late 50's and they are used in the Fender RI of the 57 Low Power Tweed Twin

T_red7882 · December 28th, 2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tazzboy

Because Weber 12A150A is base on the Jensen P12N Speakers from the late 50's and they are used in the Fender RI of the 57 Low Power Tweed Twin

but thats a totally different sound than the twin reverb

Wardpike · December 29th, 2009, 12:47 AM

sounds like a lot of folks are trying to give you some great advice, t-red. it all maskes sense to me.

vjf1968 · December 29th, 2009, 08:46 AM

T-red, why don't you just e-mail Weber, tell them what your looking for, tell them your budget, what sound your after, what style of music, ect. and they can point you in the right direction to a particular set of speakers. I have not dealt with them for speakers but I heard they are pretty good at customer service and giving you what you want.

Dr. Bill · December 29th, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by T_red7882

but thats a totally different sound than the twin reverb

Well, it's not like the Celestion Blue is associated with the Twin Reverb either.

vanguard · December 29th, 2009, 10:05 AM

a cele blue in a twin will die a quick death. trust me. i've got two jbl d120f's in mine, and those are the kind of speakers a twin needs. if you must try it, grab a used red fang. they are cheap enough you won't die a little inside when/if it blows. they sound reasonably like a blue.

Donnie55 · December 29th, 2009, 10:26 AM

I would think 50 watt speakers would be fine in a Twin. Ok its 85 watts , but are you running it on 10 all the time? I would have to agree with some of the other post in saying the Cele Blue would not be a good choice. Are you changing speakers to get an earlier break up or do you want to keep the cleans its know for? I have always looked at JBL`s or EV`s because I like the clean headroom. But if you are looking an earlier break up point.you may want to look at some of the Eminence line or talk to the people at Weber. Dont just go with a Celestion because of its rep. Go with it if thats defiantly the tone your looking for.

December 27th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
T_red7882 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco Age: 28 Posts: 1,463	Celestion Alnico blue in twin reverb? Anyone put one or two of these in their twin? I'm just curious as to what you thought about the pairing. Thanks. __________________ Homebrew tele (modeled after a 52) or MIM std strat-------> Mid 70s SFMV Vibrosonic Reverb, 65 TRRI, or PVC30

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tazzboy Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Age: 33 Posts: 5,875 1 Photos	Agreed. __________________

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muchxs Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New England Posts: 2,095	The golds are still "only" a 50 watt speaker. The only thing worse than blowing a $250 speaker is blowing two $250 speakers. __________________ Take it to a tech.

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jefrs Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Newbury, England Age: 55 Posts: 4,011	The Celestion Alnico Blue are rated at 15 watts and they mean 15 watts. The Celestion Alnico Gold are rated at 50 watts. http://professional.celestion.com/gu...nico/index.asp The Twin is 85 watts into 4ohms. The speakers are 8ohm or 15ohm each. A pair of Golds handles 100 watts, not much safety margin. __________________ There's two kinds of people, those that hear the music and those that don't.

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tazzboy Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Age: 33 Posts: 5,875 1 Photos	If you going re speaker a Fender Twin Reverb I would do The Weber 12A150A at 50 watts in the vintage series. __________________

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December 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
fezz parka VENDOR Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chasing Buddy's ghost in Clear Lake... Posts: 3,073 56 Photos	You'll blow 'em up in a Twin Reverb. Go Celestion Gold.

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fezz parka VENDOR Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chasing Buddy's ghost in Clear Lake... Posts: 3,073 56 Photos	The Blues have paper formers and can't handle the heat. If you want to try AlNiCo's in a twin reverb, I'd at least use the Golds or the 50 watt Webers. Is this an 80 watt twin?

December 27th, 2009, 07:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
fezz parka VENDOR Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chasing Buddy's ghost in Clear Lake... Posts: 3,073 56 Photos	Sure. Webers are tough speakers, but I like the sound of the Celestions. The Golds would be fine in the Twin...

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Scott S Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SW CR IA US NA PE Age: 30 Posts: 4,390	Hmm, who wants to try a Twin into 6+ Celestion Blues? I'll bet that would be a glorious sound. - Scott __________________ Wound thirds are my anti-wank.

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Wardpike Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 45 Posts: 2,962	sounds like a lot of folks are trying to give you some great advice, t-red. it all maskes sense to me. __________________ Proverbs 3:6 Matthew 5:44

December 29th, 2009, 08:46 AM	#25 (permalink)
vjf1968 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philadelphia Age: 42 Posts: 2,232 7 Photos	T-red, why don't you just e-mail Weber, tell them what your looking for, tell them your budget, what sound your after, what style of music, ect. and they can point you in the right direction to a particular set of speakers. I have not dealt with them for speakers but I heard they are pretty good at customer service and giving you what you want. __________________ "the cult aesthetic of liking only what's obscure is just as sick of being mindlessly led around by the nose" -Mark Mothersbaugh http://www.theabsinthedrinkers.com

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vanguard Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: salt lake city Age: 29 Posts: 996	a cele blue in a twin will die a quick death. trust me. i've got two jbl d120f's in mine, and those are the kind of speakers a twin needs. if you must try it, grab a used red fang. they are cheap enough you won't die a little inside when/if it blows. they sound reasonably like a blue. __________________ my jangle pop band: Gil

December 29th, 2009, 10:26 AM	#28 (permalink)
Donnie55 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nashville Age: 54 Posts: 1,492	I would think 50 watt speakers would be fine in a Twin. Ok its 85 watts , but are you running it on 10 all the time? I would have to agree with some of the other post in saying the Cele Blue would not be a good choice. Are you changing speakers to get an earlier break up or do you want to keep the cleans its know for? I have always looked at JBL`s or EV`s because I like the clean headroom. But if you are looking an earlier break up point.you may want to look at some of the Eminence line or talk to the people at Weber. Dont just go with a Celestion because of its rep. Go with it if thats defiantly the tone your looking for. __________________ www.myspace.com/redtele2 http://www.reverbnation.com/#/redtele If the music business was easy, then smart people would do it.

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