speaker swap for Blues Jr

bongo · May 12th, 2004, 03:37 PM

I have a Peavy Classic 30 (16ohm) and a Fender Blues,Jr (8 ohm) and want to try a new speaker. Was thinking of first getting a 16 ohm Blue Dog for the C30 but also giving it a try in the Fender.
What is the consequence of putting a 16 ohm in the Fender - I know it can't hurt it but will it sound the same ? Like, if I decide later to buy an 8ohm Blue Dog for the Fender ?

any suggestions for a good speaker to try (not too $)

Fret Wilkes · May 12th, 2004, 04:32 PM

I won't embarrass myself by trying to answer the "ohmage" question, but I'll tell that the Weber C12N (now 12F150 i think) sounds great in my BJ.

Fret

kaibu23 · May 12th, 2004, 06:08 PM

I can't speak to the ohms either, but I can say that I've read glowing reviews of the Reverend All-Tone speaker in the Blues Junior (on other forums). It's a very reasonably priced speaker.

I personally have a Celestion Greenback in mine, it's not ideal, but an improvement over the stock speaker IMO.

I run some cooler burning power tubes from Eurotubes and feel that the tone got more of the Fender sound I was looking to get out of it. If that makes sense...(YMMV)

KC · May 12th, 2004, 06:57 PM

normally Fender amps can tolerate a 100% impedance mismatch either way but I would wait till Norwine or Cookie or somebody else who knows what they're talking about chimes in.

but as to the sound: I don't thing the 30-watt 16-ohm Blue Dog (that you need for your C-30) is going to gave you a real accurate picture of what the 15-watt 8-ohm will sound like in the BJ. The lower-power speaker is running pretty close to the limits of its abilities, which is part of the sound, I think.

Either way this is a fine-sounding speaker in a BJ. I've said it before but this speaker and a new (cool) set of JJs made this a whole new amp. Good luck.

Tremo · May 12th, 2004, 11:25 PM

The mismatch won't damage the amp, but you won't be able to develop full power either.

Maybe get an 8 ohm speaker and see how it works in the PV?

Doc · May 13th, 2004, 12:42 AM

I have a Blues jr. I have tried the stock speaker, a Jensen C12N and the Cannibis Rex (Patriot Series). It sounds better with the C12N and even better, very, very nice with the Cannibis Rex.

bongo · May 13th, 2004, 01:15 PM

thanks for the responses - Tremo, here's a dumb follow up question -
you say the BJ won't develop full power with the 16 ohm speaker...........is this such a bad thing? that is, would the amp be quieter (that's OK with me-it's plenty loud) but sound like it's pushing real hard ?
dose'nt the power amp have to push harder into 16ohms?
not sure I understand my own question :)

May 12th, 2004, 03:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
bongo Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: hamden, ct Posts: 139	speaker swap for Blues Jr I have a Peavy Classic 30 (16ohm) and a Fender Blues,Jr (8 ohm) and want to try a new speaker. Was thinking of first getting a 16 ohm Blue Dog for the C30 but also giving it a try in the Fender. What is the consequence of putting a 16 ohm in the Fender - I know it can't hurt it but will it sound the same ? Like, if I decide later to buy an 8ohm Blue Dog for the Fender ? any suggestions for a good speaker to try (not too $) __________________ all I need is just one more guitar :)

May 12th, 2004, 04:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fret Wilkes Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Harmony, R.I. Age: 51 Posts: 915 23 Photos	Weber C12N in mine... I won't embarrass myself by trying to answer the "ohmage" question, but I'll tell that the Weber C12N (now 12F150 i think) sounds great in my BJ. Fret __________________ See, I didn't reconize ya when ya first drove up till ya stuck yer hand out and wove then I seen right off who ya was and knowd ya. Epiphany: The Ignore List can make the TDPRI and even BETTER place to be!

May 12th, 2004, 06:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
kaibu23 TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 31	I can't speak to the ohms either, but I can say that I've read glowing reviews of the Reverend All-Tone speaker in the Blues Junior (on other forums). It's a very reasonably priced speaker. I personally have a Celestion Greenback in mine, it's not ideal, but an improvement over the stock speaker IMO. I run some cooler burning power tubes from Eurotubes and feel that the tone got more of the Fender sound I was looking to get out of it. If that makes sense...(YMMV) __________________ "My solos are my trademark." -Nigel Tufnel

May 12th, 2004, 06:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
KC Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Missoula, Montana Posts: 1,232 15 Photos	a forthright "I don't know" normally Fender amps can tolerate a 100% impedance mismatch either way but I would wait till Norwine or Cookie or somebody else who knows what they're talking about chimes in. but as to the sound: I don't thing the 30-watt 16-ohm Blue Dog (that you need for your C-30) is going to gave you a real accurate picture of what the 15-watt 8-ohm will sound like in the BJ. The lower-power speaker is running pretty close to the limits of its abilities, which is part of the sound, I think. Either way this is a fine-sounding speaker in a BJ. I've said it before but this speaker and a new (cool) set of JJs made this a whole new amp. Good luck.

May 13th, 2004, 12:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Doc Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 968	I have a Blues jr. I have tried the stock speaker, a Jensen C12N and the Cannibis Rex (Patriot Series). It sounds better with the C12N and even better, very, very nice with the Cannibis Rex. __________________ Guitars: Teles, LP, others. Amps: El Diablo, Richter 5E3, 5E3 Head, Traynor Bass Master II, Epi Jr Head, Gretsch/Supro, 60's Univox and others. Current Board-Guitar>Tuner>Java Boost> Huckleberry>Fuzz Head>Top Fuel>SFX-03> Keeley Comp>Clone Chorus>FL3> Amp

May 12th, 2004, 11:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tremo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,758	The mismatch won't damage the amp, but you won't be able to develop full power either. Maybe get an 8 ohm speaker and see how it works in the PV?

May 13th, 2004, 01:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
bongo Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: hamden, ct Posts: 139	thanks for the responses - Tremo, here's a dumb follow up question - you say the BJ won't develop full power with the 16 ohm speaker...........is this such a bad thing? that is, would the amp be quieter (that's OK with me-it's plenty loud) but sound like it's pushing real hard ? dose'nt the power amp have to push harder into 16ohms? not sure I understand my own question :) __________________ all I need is just one more guitar :)