Push/pull Supers

TheGoodTexan · May 10th, 2004, 09:08 AM

Hey folks...

What are your opinions of the mid-90s version of the Super? This is the one with the 4x10 cab, effects loop, channel switching and several push/pull pots on the front panel. Nothing like a traditional Super I know, but are they good in their own right? Can anyone compare it to a HD DeVille 4x10?

I have a chance to get one that's in great shape, at a pretty low price.

alexbatonrouge · May 10th, 2004, 09:27 AM

The circuit is based on the bassman said Fender.
I bought it from a guy who had dropped Jensen in. I liked the Clean Channel but never used the other "muddy" two as I liked my Tube Factor (only the green channel) more playing classic and new country. I then switched to the real thing. A silverface to blackface modded Super Reverb. Way better sounding imho which counts also for the reverb. Another thing. the Super from the 90´s is PCB and not Point to point wired. Service unfriendly from what I learned here.
These amps are okay but I would not die to get it back. I would always opt for a silverface amp instead and use stompboxes for distortion.
Concerning the price: They run for 700-900 Dollar here in Europe. A silverface without Master can be found for around 1000-1200. I would invest that extra dough.
At the moment I am using a sf princeton reverb on stage cause we switched to in-ear monitoring. So no argument left for bringing such a back killer (I would also consider this as an argument and prefer a vibrolux reverb if you gig much).
Considering your last question: I liked my super way more than the blues deville from my colleague but this could have been due to speakers. The super sounded more dimensional than the Deville and I liked the reverb more but never liked the distortion of both as I mentioned before. The Super also has a parallel effect "way" if you like but I never used it. I would go for the Super if I had to choose between a deville (with Eminence stock speaker) and a super (with blue alnicos from Fender or Jensen).

stantheman · May 10th, 2004, 12:15 PM

hunt around and see if You can get a Concert, Rivera
designed ALL PTP just like a true blackface AND like the
"original concerts" no rectifier tube. I picked up my 4X10
at GC for $375 about 7 years ago. Like everyone else
I'd rather just "stomp" the Clean Channel than deal with
the Dirty Side. I think the Rivera Concerts were the LAST
DECENT AMPLIFIER made by Fender on a large scale production run. This was before the new ownership who
BTW IMHO make a great Guitar.
I'd plunk down $350 tops and it'd have to be cherry 8)

TheGoodTexan · May 10th, 2004, 01:15 PM

Yeah...I would almost certainly "stomp" the clean channel, as opposed to using the channel switching. So I guess the real question is this: How is the clean channel on this era of Supers, specifically compared to a new HR DeVille 4x10?

May 10th, 2004, 09:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
alexbatonrouge TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bremen - Germany Posts: 76	had one... The circuit is based on the bassman said Fender. I bought it from a guy who had dropped Jensen in. I liked the Clean Channel but never used the other "muddy" two as I liked my Tube Factor (only the green channel) more playing classic and new country. I then switched to the real thing. A silverface to blackface modded Super Reverb. Way better sounding imho which counts also for the reverb. Another thing. the Super from the 90´s is PCB and not Point to point wired. Service unfriendly from what I learned here. These amps are okay but I would not die to get it back. I would always opt for a silverface amp instead and use stompboxes for distortion. Concerning the price: They run for 700-900 Dollar here in Europe. A silverface without Master can be found for around 1000-1200. I would invest that extra dough. At the moment I am using a sf princeton reverb on stage cause we switched to in-ear monitoring. So no argument left for bringing such a back killer (I would also consider this as an argument and prefer a vibrolux reverb if you gig much). Considering your last question: I liked my super way more than the blues deville from my colleague but this could have been due to speakers. The super sounded more dimensional than the Deville and I liked the reverb more but never liked the distortion of both as I mentioned before. The Super also has a parallel effect "way" if you like but I never used it. I would go for the Super if I had to choose between a deville (with Eminence stock speaker) and a super (with blue alnicos from Fender or Jensen).

May 10th, 2004, 12:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
stantheman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: White Mountains Posts: 5,071	Texan, hunt around and see if You can get a Concert, Rivera designed ALL PTP just like a true blackface AND like the "original concerts" no rectifier tube. I picked up my 4X10 at GC for $375 about 7 years ago. Like everyone else I'd rather just "stomp" the Clean Channel than deal with the Dirty Side. I think the Rivera Concerts were the LAST DECENT AMPLIFIER made by Fender on a large scale production run. This was before the new ownership who BTW IMHO make a great Guitar. I'd plunk down $350 tops and it'd have to be cherry 8) __________________ Somebody Loan Me A Dime