Kendrick Blackframe 10" - good choice with Pro Jr.?

Tim Bowen · April 25th, 2004, 11:52 PM

http://kendrick-amplifiers.com/Merch...tegory_Code=12

I have a line on a used one at a nice price. Any experience with this one in general, or particularly with a Fender Pro Jr.? I'm considering replacing the brown label Eminence in my PJ with the Kendrick.

Tremo · April 26th, 2004, 12:51 AM

The Kendrick 10" blackframe is a Credence made ceramic magnet clone of a Jensen P10R. I guess that would really make it a C10R clone. Yawn. Not the ballsiest speaker out there.

If it's *cheap*, then why not. You might like it, who knows. If it's not cheap, I'd pass and get something with more ballz.

Tim Bowen · April 26th, 2004, 01:13 AM

Thanks Tremo... nothing special then? Any comments as to how it plays when pushed hard? How's the high end & upper mids? If it's ultra-crispy, I'll pass...

Tremo · April 26th, 2004, 02:53 AM

It's a bit on the bright side. And shy on the bass side. But that's just my take on it, you may like it, who knows. Personally I'd go with a ceramic magnet Weber before I'd go with a Kendrick. Jeez, even a reissue Jensen C10Q with Uncle Spot's acetone treatment on the cone.

How cheap is it?

Tim Bowen · April 27th, 2004, 02:55 AM

The guy said he was selling "real cheap", & then our conversation was cut short before I could get a $$$ figure. Just trying to get some insight before pursuing it any further. Bright, & shy on the bass doesn't sound like the ticket, I'll likely skip it.

Pierce · April 27th, 2004, 08:27 PM

there are better cheaper new and used out there

Tremo · April 28th, 2004, 06:37 AM

I agree, $20 tops for those things. they're not worth more, even if they're brand new.

supa_scoopa · April 28th, 2004, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremo

The Kendrick 10" blackframe is a Credence made ceramic magnet clone of a Jensen P10R. I guess that would really make it a C10R clone. Yawn. Not the ballsiest speaker out there.

If it's *cheap*, then why not. You might like it, who knows. If it's not cheap, I'd pass and get something with more ballz.

Seems like you know speakers so I'll ask, what do you know/think of Reverend Alltone 1030 and 1025??

Tremo · April 28th, 2004, 02:58 PM

Sorry, but I've never even seen, let alone heard, a Reverend speaker. Now this is not to diss them in any way. I honestly have never heard one so I can't really do a valid comparison with something that I have heard. Doh!! Sorry!

With all that said, I suspect that the Reverends were once made by Eminence but are now made by Credence. There is nothing wrong with Credence per se, they can build a good speaker. But they build what they're asked to build. If one asks them to build an really good speaker, they can. If someone asks them to build a cheap speaker, they'll do that as well. Bright, dark, whatever.

I'm sure that there are others here who do have direct experience with the Reverends and will be happy to respond to you. Most comments I've read about them have been favorable.

Tim Bowen · April 29th, 2004, 01:49 AM

supa_scoopa, here's a link to a previous thread:

http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t...ltone+speakers

I liked the 1025's so much that I ordered the Alltone 1250 12" for my DRRI. Should be arriving next week. The 1025's have sounded great at a couple of loud rehearsals. And they're cheap. I'll be carrying the amp with the 1025's out for its first show later this week; if my opinion changes after the gig, I'll follow up on it here.

As for the Kendrick - wow, tough crowd... pretty severe thumbs down from you guys.

Tremo · April 29th, 2004, 05:25 AM

Have you seen Gerrie's pricing on those things? 99 bux for a lousey ceramic 10? You gotta be kidding. Webers cost less and sound better, so it's a no-brainer. Jeez, you can get a Weber alnico for less than a Kendrick ceramic. Duh!!! Kendrick is a price gouger like GT.

supa_scoopa · April 29th, 2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bowen

supa_scoopa, here's a link to a previous thread:

http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t...ltone+speakers

I liked the 1025's so much that I ordered the Alltone 1250 12" for my DRRI. Should be arriving next week. The 1025's have sounded great at a couple of loud rehearsals. And they're cheap. I'll be carrying the amp with the 1025's out for its first show later this week; if my opinion changes after the gig, I'll follow up on it here.

As for the Kendrick - wow, tough crowd... pretty severe thumbs down from you guys.

Cool thanks, I currently have a pair of 1025s and a pair of 1030s in an Ampeg VT-40, jury's still out on this combo.

fullerplast · April 29th, 2004, 02:19 PM

Tim- Re: the "tough crowd". You may not have been around the newsgroups long enough, but Tremo is and always has been anti Kendrick and GT and will diss them at any opportunity. He does not agree with their marketing or pricing policies but that does not make their products or services bad. I've seen excellent Kendrick products and GT does provide a useful tube screening and sorting services for those wanting to pay for it. Of course there are plenty of alternatives to both companies products and services at both higher and lower prices. Tremo knows his stuff technically and contributes lots of good information to the boards, but be aware he's had a vendetta against Gerald Weber and Aspen Pittman since the beginning of time. The "tough crowd" is not as big a crowd as it may appear.

April 25th, 2004, 11:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tim Bowen Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Age: 48 Posts: 3,390	Kendrick Blackframe 10" - good choice with Pro Jr.? http://kendrick-amplifiers.com/Merch...tegory_Code=12 I have a line on a used one at a nice price. Any experience with this one in general, or particularly with a Fender Pro Jr.? I'm considering replacing the brown label Eminence in my PJ with the Kendrick. __________________ "Everyone is different in how they learn, but for me, it's turning the pegs and just playing." - BB

April 26th, 2004, 01:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tim Bowen Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Age: 48 Posts: 3,390	Thanks Tremo... nothing special then? Any comments as to how it plays when pushed hard? How's the high end & upper mids? If it's ultra-crispy, I'll pass... __________________ "Everyone is different in how they learn, but for me, it's turning the pegs and just playing." - BB

April 27th, 2004, 02:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tim Bowen Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Age: 48 Posts: 3,390	The guy said he was selling "real cheap", & then our conversation was cut short before I could get a $$$ figure. Just trying to get some insight before pursuing it any further. Bright, & shy on the bass doesn't sound like the ticket, I'll likely skip it. __________________ "Everyone is different in how they learn, but for me, it's turning the pegs and just playing." - BB

April 27th, 2004, 08:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pierce Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: skull island Posts: 471	on't pay any more than 20$ for it there are better cheaper new and used out there

April 29th, 2004, 01:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
Tim Bowen Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Age: 48 Posts: 3,390	supa_scoopa, here's a link to a previous thread: http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t...ltone+speakers I liked the 1025's so much that I ordered the Alltone 1250 12" for my DRRI. Should be arriving next week. The 1025's have sounded great at a couple of loud rehearsals. And they're cheap. I'll be carrying the amp with the 1025's out for its first show later this week; if my opinion changes after the gig, I'll follow up on it here. As for the Kendrick - wow, tough crowd... pretty severe thumbs down from you guys. __________________ "Everyone is different in how they learn, but for me, it's turning the pegs and just playing." - BB

April 26th, 2004, 12:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	The Kendrick 10" blackframe is a Credence made ceramic magnet clone of a Jensen P10R. I guess that would really make it a C10R clone. Yawn. Not the ballsiest speaker out there. If it's cheap, then why not. You might like it, who knows. If it's not cheap, I'd pass and get something with more ballz.

April 26th, 2004, 02:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	It's a bit on the bright side. And shy on the bass side. But that's just my take on it, you may like it, who knows. Personally I'd go with a ceramic magnet Weber before I'd go with a Kendrick. Jeez, even a reissue Jensen C10Q with Uncle Spot's acetone treatment on the cone. How cheap is it?

April 28th, 2004, 06:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	I agree, $20 tops for those things. they're not worth more, even if they're brand new.

April 28th, 2004, 02:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Sorry, but I've never even seen, let alone heard, a Reverend speaker. Now this is not to diss them in any way. I honestly have never heard one so I can't really do a valid comparison with something that I have heard. Doh!! Sorry! With all that said, I suspect that the Reverends were once made by Eminence but are now made by Credence. There is nothing wrong with Credence per se, they can build a good speaker. But they build what they're asked to build. If one asks them to build an really good speaker, they can. If someone asks them to build a cheap speaker, they'll do that as well. Bright, dark, whatever. I'm sure that there are others here who do have direct experience with the Reverends and will be happy to respond to you. Most comments I've read about them have been favorable.

April 29th, 2004, 05:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Have you seen Gerrie's pricing on those things? 99 bux for a lousey ceramic 10? You gotta be kidding. Webers cost less and sound better, so it's a no-brainer. Jeez, you can get a Weber alnico for less than a Kendrick ceramic. Duh!!! Kendrick is a price gouger like GT.

April 29th, 2004, 02:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
fullerplast Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,066	Tim- Re: the "tough crowd". You may not have been around the newsgroups long enough, but Tremo is and always has been anti Kendrick and GT and will diss them at any opportunity. He does not agree with their marketing or pricing policies but that does not make their products or services bad. I've seen excellent Kendrick products and GT does provide a useful tube screening and sorting services for those wanting to pay for it. Of course there are plenty of alternatives to both companies products and services at both higher and lower prices. Tremo knows his stuff technically and contributes lots of good information to the boards, but be aware he's had a vendetta against Gerald Weber and Aspen Pittman since the beginning of time. The "tough crowd" is not as big a crowd as it may appear.