hey big cookie tell us more about the TAD black plate 6l6's?

afenderman67 · April 24th, 2004, 01:05 AM

i read your post about these tubes and was wondering if you had time to really abuse them yet? and how do you think they compare to the JJ and svetlana 6l6's?

i hope they are a tube because they sure look cool!

thanks in advance!! chris

Big Cookie · April 24th, 2004, 02:53 AM

Hi Chris,

I needed an amp for Will Ray to use with me and the Crumbs last Saturday as he fllew in with his G&L and pedals only, so I pulled a modded Boogie SOB out of my back room and put the TAD 6L6's in it. I set the bias at 36ma and abused the snot out of it at full volume for an hour or so through an older (74) Marshall 4x12 with V-30's on the top and G12H-30's on the bottom. Nice compression, punchy, and really smooth. Off to the gig I went. We were outdoors in Dallas Alley in the West End and Will had one of his normal absolutely smoking nights. They sounded just as good in the brick canyon as they did out in rural land where I first heard them. Sunday I popped the amp back on the bench and they hadn't varied more than .5ma with the bit of break in that they had. The TAD 6L6 is a bargain for sure and they are built like a tank. They have the best harmonic content of any production 6L6 I have heard in a while. I don't know how they perform in a smaller quieter setting yet as the only time I have used them was in JJ's Blues Bar in Fort Worth and that was on virtually the same settings Will used it at outdoors. I will say that when they are cranked they sing. Will was favorably impressed with the overall tone saying that it had headroom and punch while having a full round sound.

Tim Swartz · April 24th, 2004, 11:05 AM

Cookie, thanks for the report. I've really not been impressed with the current crop of 6L6s from other vendors... The JJ, Svetlana (Winged C???), and various EHs all seem to sound like the basic Sovtec 5881. Compared to an RCA blackplate they are just kind of lifeless w/ not much character... and they seem to lose their shimmer rather quickly.... I'm anxious to hear how these hold up. Please keep us informed.

Stan Martin · April 24th, 2004, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Cookie

Hi Chris,

I needed an amp for Will Ray to use with me and the Crumbs last Saturday as he fllew in with his G&L and pedals only, so I pulled a modded Boogie SOB out of my back room and put the TAD 6L6's in it. I set the bias at 36ma and abused the snot out of it at full volume for an hour or so through an older (74) Marshall 4x12 with V-30's on the top and G12H-30's on the bottom. Nice compression, punchy, and really smooth. Off to the gig I went. We were outdoors in Dallas Alley in the West End and Will had one of his normal absolutely smoking nights. They sounded just as good in the brick canyon as they did out in rural land where I first heard them. Sunday I popped the amp back on the bench and they hadn't varied more than .5ma with the bit of break in that they had. The TAD 6L6 is a bargain for sure and they are built like a tank. They have the best harmonic content of any production 6L6 I have heard in a while. I don't know how they perform in a smaller quieter setting yet as the only time I have used them was in JJ's Blues Bar in Fort Worth and that was on virtually the same settings Will used it at outdoors. I will say that when they are cranked they sing. Will was favorably impressed with the overall tone saying that it had headroom and punch while having a full round sound.

are you using the short bottle GE style???

afenderman67 · April 26th, 2004, 11:48 AM

i hope they sound as good as they look!

chris

afenderman67 · April 30th, 2004, 01:19 AM

any one else had a chance to try these tubes yet?

i'm really interested in how they sound in a fender like my BFSR!! :P

Big Cookie · April 30th, 2004, 04:47 PM

I just put my last pair in a SFSR that I BF'ed for a customer and they just sing. Punchy as all get out too. Now I have to wait for more they are sold out at my wholesaler. :o(

afenderman67 · May 4th, 2004, 11:16 PM

i pulled some sylvania 6l6gc's out of my BFSR and put the small bottle TAD BP 6L6GC'S in and they did'nt even come close!they were bias at 35ma's with 455 on the plate voltage!

they killed all of my bottom end and were alot brighter sounding!so 10 minutes in and rite out they came and back went the sylvania.

i had big hopes for these too!!

chris :(

Stan Martin · May 5th, 2004, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afenderman67

i pulled some sylvania 6l6gc's out of my BFSR and put the small bottle TAD BP 6L6GC'S in and they did'nt even come close!they were bias at 35ma's with 455 on the plate voltage!

they killed all of my bottom end and were alot brighter sounding!so 10 minutes in and rite out they came and back went the sylvania.

i had big hopes for these too!!

chris :(

you may want to try those at a hotter/ higher current rating. I'd say around 44ma. For some reason a lot of these new tubes need to be run hotter to sound better. Maybe someone on this board can explain why.

Big Cookie · May 5th, 2004, 03:01 PM

I'm running the WGB version in the Boogie at 38ma.

afenderman67 · May 8th, 2004, 01:46 PM

that's the one i meant to say i was using ,the short GE style tubes!

does any one want to buy them from me? there new!and they are cheap!

chris

Stan Martin · May 9th, 2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afenderman67

that's the one i meant to say i was using ,the short GE style tubes!

does any one want to buy them from me? there new!and they are cheap!

chris

how cheap? Send me a PM.

April 24th, 2004, 01:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
afenderman67 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	hey big cookie tell us more about the TAD black plate 6l6's? i read your post about these tubes and was wondering if you had time to really abuse them yet? and how do you think they compare to the JJ and svetlana 6l6's? i hope they are a tube because they sure look cool! thanks in advance!! chris

April 24th, 2004, 02:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Big Cookie Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ennis, Texas Posts: 693	TAD 6L6 Hi Chris, I needed an amp for Will Ray to use with me and the Crumbs last Saturday as he fllew in with his G&L and pedals only, so I pulled a modded Boogie SOB out of my back room and put the TAD 6L6's in it. I set the bias at 36ma and abused the snot out of it at full volume for an hour or so through an older (74) Marshall 4x12 with V-30's on the top and G12H-30's on the bottom. Nice compression, punchy, and really smooth. Off to the gig I went. We were outdoors in Dallas Alley in the West End and Will had one of his normal absolutely smoking nights. They sounded just as good in the brick canyon as they did out in rural land where I first heard them. Sunday I popped the amp back on the bench and they hadn't varied more than .5ma with the bit of break in that they had. The TAD 6L6 is a bargain for sure and they are built like a tank. They have the best harmonic content of any production 6L6 I have heard in a while. I don't know how they perform in a smaller quieter setting yet as the only time I have used them was in JJ's Blues Bar in Fort Worth and that was on virtually the same settings Will used it at outdoors. I will say that when they are cranked they sing. Will was favorably impressed with the overall tone saying that it had headroom and punch while having a full round sound.

April 24th, 2004, 11:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tim Swartz Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan - Tweenst the Great Lakes Posts: 1,904	Thanks Cookie! Cookie, thanks for the report. I've really not been impressed with the current crop of 6L6s from other vendors... The JJ, Svetlana (Winged C???), and various EHs all seem to sound like the basic Sovtec 5881. Compared to an RCA blackplate they are just kind of lifeless w/ not much character... and they seem to lose their shimmer rather quickly.... I'm anxious to hear how these hold up. Please keep us informed.

April 26th, 2004, 11:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
afenderman67 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	any one using these tubes? i hope they sound as good as they look! chris

April 30th, 2004, 04:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Big Cookie Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ennis, Texas Posts: 693	TAD 6L6 I just put my last pair in a SFSR that I BF'ed for a customer and they just sing. Punchy as all get out too. Now I have to wait for more they are sold out at my wholesaler. :o(

April 30th, 2004, 01:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
afenderman67 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	any one else had a chance to try these tubes yet? i'm really interested in how they sound in a fender like my BFSR!! :P

May 4th, 2004, 11:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
afenderman67 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	well i tried them?? i pulled some sylvania 6l6gc's out of my BFSR and put the small bottle TAD BP 6L6GC'S in and they did'nt even come close!they were bias at 35ma's with 455 on the plate voltage! they killed all of my bottom end and were alot brighter sounding!so 10 minutes in and rite out they came and back went the sylvania. i had big hopes for these too!! chris :(

May 5th, 2004, 03:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Big Cookie Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ennis, Texas Posts: 693	TAD I'm running the WGB version in the Boogie at 38ma.

May 8th, 2004, 01:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
afenderman67 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	that's the one i meant to say i was using ,the short GE style tubes! does any one want to buy them from me? there new!and they are cheap! chris