Looking for Mr. Goodamp

TheGoodTexan · April 23rd, 2004, 06:40 PM

Can someone recommend a 1x12 combo, 50 watt plexi-style preamp and amp that runs on EL34s. I don't want channel switching of any kind. Just bass / mid / treble / volume. I don't need a "master volume", and reverb is not really even a necessity.

I might just get a 50-watt plexi reissue and build a 1x12 combo cabinet for it.

Tremo · April 23rd, 2004, 07:34 PM

Doesn't Top Hat make something like that?

You looking for an inexpensive PCB or a pricier PTP boutique job?

I may be wrong, but I think most of those 50 Watt Plexi inspired combos are 2x12s.

Reno Sepulveda · April 23rd, 2004, 07:51 PM

http://www.fargenamps.com/Mighty%20Plex.htm

Available as a 1X12" combo

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoodTexan

Can someone recommend a 1x12 combo, 50 watt plexi-style preamp and amp that runs on EL34s. I don't want channel switching of any kind. Just bass / mid / treble / volume. I don't need a "master volume", and reverb is not really even a necessity.

I might just get a 50-watt plexi reissue and build a 1x12 combo cabinet for it.

Tremo · April 23rd, 2004, 10:42 PM

Very interesting. And cathode biased as well!

I suspect that "40 Watts" may be a bit optimistic for cathode biasing. But who knows........

TheGoodTexan · April 24th, 2004, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremo

Doesn't Top Hat make something like that?

Maybe. I'm not familiar with their models.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremo

You looking for an inexpensive PCB or a pricier PTP boutique job?

I don't think it matters. I can usually hear a difference, but I'm actually not that picky about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremo

I may be wrong, but I think most of those 50 Watt Plexi inspired combos are 2x12s.

No, you are correct. The Bluesbreakers and such were all 2x12. But I've got 2 ruptured disks in my back....so I try to carry as little as possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reno Sepulveda

Here you go

http://www.fargenamps.com/Mighty%20Plex.htm

Available as a 1X12" combo

That's probably what I'm talking about. I wonder how much they run...$$$ ? I'll email them and find out.

The more I think about it, the more I am talking myself into snatching up a used Marshall 50 watt Plexi Reissue, and building a custom 1x12 cab for it. I've owned one in the past, and no it's not the same as my real one, but it's pretty danged close. And if I'm going to pull the chassis anyway, that may be a better route.

Any more opinions?

JWK · April 24th, 2004, 02:22 PM

I don't get it. If you have back problems and weight is a real issue, wouldn't it be easier to build a single 12" cab and get a head? I mean, if you're willing to build a custom cab for the amp, why not just build a speaker cab? JM2C

Anonymous · April 24th, 2004, 03:05 PM

... then go find an Aiken amp to try out: www.aikenamps.com. But fair WARNING: don't play one unless you can afford to spend in the neighborhood of $2K+. Because after playing one, you won't want anything else.

I had a chance to play through an Aiken Invader 18w combo recently as part of an "amp shootout," and was simply blown away. I thought my G.A.S. was at least temporarily under control. And I thought I wasn't really a "Marshall" guy.

Boy, was I wrong. :-\ CS

flying · April 24th, 2004, 03:13 PM

I have always played Deluxe reverbs & Blues Deluxe etc.
Then my 73DR started acting up.
My wife had a JTM45 head which I built a 2x12 cab for.
It had sat for years so I pulled it out.
She had cheap chinese tubes in it so I put in NOS RCA's
WOW
I love it with a tiny delay up front.
Sooooo glassy & when the channels are jumped with zero presence it sounds as good or better than anything I have played.
Check it out if you can.
Good Luck
Mike

TheGoodTexan · April 25th, 2004, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWK

I don't get it. If you have back problems and weight is a real issue, wouldn't it be easier to build a single 12" cab and get a head? I mean, if you're willing to build a custom cab for the amp, why not just build a speaker cab? JM2C

I see what you're saying. But I try really hard to be a "one-trip-loader". Gig bag on the back, pedal board case in one hand, amp in another hand. Lately I've been using a Fender HD DeVille 4x10, and although I'm diggin the tone, I just need something smaller (cause I can't safely carry that amp with one arm).

Plus, I just got a new table saw and router, and I need a project! I was thinking, JTM45 reissue (or a 1987), in a solid pine, finger-jointed combo cab, with a single 12" Greenback.

At least it sounds good in my head!

stantheman · April 25th, 2004, 10:47 PM

myself 'cause it's a 1X12 I'd go Vintage 30.
Texan is your "Standard" your main for the Stage?
What about the H.R.Deluxe? That's a 1X12....
And probably close to what you've got now...I'd
get a Vintage 30 for it though first thing.

TheGoodTexan · April 26th, 2004, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stantheman

myself 'cause it's a 1X12 I'd go Vintage 30.
Texan is your "Standard" your main for the Stage?
What about the H.R.Deluxe? That's a 1X12....
And probably close to what you've got now...I'd
get a Vintage 30 for it though first thing.

Yeah, for about the past year, I've been using the DeVille 4x10 for rehearsal and stage. Of course I don't need the volume that its capable of, but I really dig the tight sound of 4 tens. But a HD Deluxe might just be in order. The other guitar player in our band uses a DeVille 2x12 and it sounds really good too.

For some reason, I never jumped on the Vintage 30 bandwagon. I know a lot of folks love them, but I've tried them in several amps, both low power and high power amps, and they just don't do it for me (something about the midrange). Greenbacks sing for me....and at the lower volumes that my band tries to stay at, I can keep it sounding tight.

Tremo · April 26th, 2004, 02:36 PM

I once put a V30 into an older Blues Deluxe. The strangest thing happened. The V30 has a much bigger magnet than the stock speaker, and it ends up closer to the chassis. Well the leakage flux from the V30's magnet was so strong that it interfered with the channel switching relays in the amp. The thing would no longer channel switch with the V30 in there. I've never seen anything like that before or since. Once I put the original speaker back in, the channel switching worked again.

Go figure.

Guy from Idaho · April 28th, 2004, 06:11 PM

Fargen MightyPlex is a good'un. I've got one (head) and really dig it.

tom grossheider · April 28th, 2004, 06:44 PM

Marshall JCM800 4010 Combo. The early ones had flying leads to the board, sockets and pots. Plenty of volume and a master to boot. The USA versions had 6550s, but can be converted to EL34s easily enough, or use the 6CA7EHs. If it is rockin Marshall tone you are after, that will do it.

Randall Aiken · May 1st, 2004, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris S.

... then go find an Aiken amp to try out: www.aikenamps.com. But fair WARNING: don't play one unless you can afford to spend in the neighborhood of $2K+. Because after playing one, you won't want anything else.

I had a chance to play through an Aiken Invader 18w combo recently as part of an "amp shootout," and was simply blown away. I thought my G.A.S. was at least temporarily under control. And I thought I wasn't really a "Marshall" guy.

Boy, was I wrong. :-\ CS

Hi, Chris,

I was browsing this forum and came across your post. I just wanted to say thanks for the nice comments - I'm glad you liked our Invader!

Randall Aiken

Anonymous · May 6th, 2004, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Aiken

Hi, Chris,

I was browsing this forum and came across your post. I just wanted to say thanks for the nice comments - I'm glad you liked our Invader!

Randall Aiken

Well, you're welcome. :-) But it wasn't a case of "like." "Like" I could handle. This was pure "gotta-have-it-now" lust. (sigh) Now I just have to figure out which stuff to sell in order to get one. :-|

(But in the meantime, if you'd like to loan me one so I could continue to rant about how good they are... hehe. No? Oh well, it was worth a shot.) ;-) CS

Red Planet · May 6th, 2004, 06:22 PM

I had the opertunity to play an Aiken Tom Cat the other day. I'm like Chris that is a hafto Amp! Its on my xmas list. Its a 15 watter 1x12 combo that smokes. I hope they do our bonuses in November again this year.

Hey Randall if your still around waht happend with the shop policy. I emailed you a while back and you said stop in any time and I called the other day and (was it?) Herman or Henry said no visitors. I am in that area often and would like to see first hand how ya make em. Shoot I'll even take ya ta lunch.

I absolutley love the Aiken stuff and cant waite to check out the new models. No sucking up here just da fax.

For right now I am doing the same thing . I ordered a 18 watt 1x12 combo cab to put my Plexi Reissue in. For the same reason that and the fact that my band mates are ready to kill me about my volume of coarse it would help if the freakin bass player would turn down. Thats what I like about the Aiken stuff that has the built in Attenuator. VERY COOL!

Yes if you got the money get an Aiken. I could of had a V8 , sound familliar? For what I got tied up in this freakin plexi getting it to behave the way I want it to I could have just bought an Aiken.

What I want is a 50 watt Sabre in a 1x12 combo. When is it hitting the shelf.? I'd like to have two Tom Cats.

I would like to see a Tom Cat that is designed specifically for Clean that would be cool to have one of each side by side.

April 24th, 2004, 02:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
JWK TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: central NY Age: 52 Posts: 91	Why not a head? I don't get it. If you have back problems and weight is a real issue, wouldn't it be easier to build a single 12" cab and get a head? I mean, if you're willing to build a custom cab for the amp, why not just build a speaker cab? JM2C

April 24th, 2004, 03:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 0	If price isn't an issue... ... then go find an Aiken amp to try out: www.aikenamps.com. But fair WARNING: don't play one unless you can afford to spend in the neighborhood of $2K+. Because after playing one, you won't want anything else. I had a chance to play through an Aiken Invader 18w combo recently as part of an "amp shootout," and was simply blown away. I thought my G.A.S. was at least temporarily under control. And I thought I wasn't really a "Marshall" guy. Boy, was I wrong. :-\ CS

April 24th, 2004, 03:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
flying Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 345	JTM45 I have always played Deluxe reverbs & Blues Deluxe etc. Then my 73DR started acting up. My wife had a JTM45 head which I built a 2x12 cab for. It had sat for years so I pulled it out. She had cheap chinese tubes in it so I put in NOS RCA's WOW I love it with a tiny delay up front. Sooooo glassy & when the channels are jumped with zero presence it sounds as good or better than anything I have played. Check it out if you can. Good Luck Mike

April 25th, 2004, 10:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
stantheman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: White Mountains Posts: 5,071	The project with a "1987" sounds cool myself 'cause it's a 1X12 I'd go Vintage 30. Texan is your "Standard" your main for the Stage? What about the H.R.Deluxe? That's a 1X12.... And probably close to what you've got now...I'd get a Vintage 30 for it though first thing. __________________ Somebody Loan Me A Dime

April 28th, 2004, 06:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Guy from Idaho TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Moscow, North Idaho Posts: 41	Reno's suggestion of a.... Fargen MightyPlex is a good'un. I've got one (head) and really dig it.

April 23rd, 2004, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Doesn't Top Hat make something like that? You looking for an inexpensive PCB or a pricier PTP boutique job? I may be wrong, but I think most of those 50 Watt Plexi inspired combos are 2x12s.

April 23rd, 2004, 10:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Very interesting. And cathode biased as well! I suspect that "40 Watts" may be a bit optimistic for cathode biasing. But who knows........

April 26th, 2004, 02:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	I once put a V30 into an older Blues Deluxe. The strangest thing happened. The V30 has a much bigger magnet than the stock speaker, and it ends up closer to the chassis. Well the leakage flux from the V30's magnet was so strong that it interfered with the channel switching relays in the amp. The thing would no longer channel switch with the V30 in there. I've never seen anything like that before or since. Once I put the original speaker back in, the channel switching worked again. Go figure.

April 28th, 2004, 06:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
tom grossheider Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mokena, IL Posts: 742	Marshall JCM800 4010 Combo. The early ones had flying leads to the board, sockets and pots. Plenty of volume and a master to boot. The USA versions had 6550s, but can be converted to EL34s easily enough, or use the 6CA7EHs. If it is rockin Marshall tone you are after, that will do it.

May 6th, 2004, 06:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
Red Planet Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Georgia Posts: 421	I had the opertunity to play an Aiken Tom Cat the other day. I'm like Chris that is a hafto Amp! Its on my xmas list. Its a 15 watter 1x12 combo that smokes. I hope they do our bonuses in November again this year. Hey Randall if your still around waht happend with the shop policy. I emailed you a while back and you said stop in any time and I called the other day and (was it?) Herman or Henry said no visitors. I am in that area often and would like to see first hand how ya make em. Shoot I'll even take ya ta lunch. I absolutley love the Aiken stuff and cant waite to check out the new models. No sucking up here just da fax. For right now I am doing the same thing . I ordered a 18 watt 1x12 combo cab to put my Plexi Reissue in. For the same reason that and the fact that my band mates are ready to kill me about my volume of coarse it would help if the freakin bass player would turn down. Thats what I like about the Aiken stuff that has the built in Attenuator. VERY COOL! Yes if you got the money get an Aiken. I could of had a V8 , sound familliar? For what I got tied up in this freakin plexi getting it to behave the way I want it to I could have just bought an Aiken. What I want is a 50 watt Sabre in a 1x12 combo. When is it hitting the shelf.? I'd like to have two Tom Cats. I would like to see a Tom Cat that is designed specifically for Clean that would be cool to have one of each side by side. __________________ RC Cola and a moon Pie!