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GhostofJohnToad · June 30th, 2009, 10:25 AM

I am real close to pulling the plug on one of these. I want to use it for recording mainly and practicing secondly. I don't want to sink any money on tubes, speakers, mods right away - but I'm not adverse to the idea down the road. Of course if I could find either used for a better price than new that might sway me in either direction.

Looking for some pros and cons.

Sterling Indigo · June 30th, 2009, 11:14 AM

Pull the plug on the 600 but pull the trigger on the 4.

rangercaster · June 30th, 2009, 11:23 AM

the attenuator feature would make the Vox a better choice for me ...

ruger9 · June 30th, 2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GhostofJohnToad

I don't want to sink any money on tubes, speakers, mods right away -

Based on that, I'd say the Vox.

The 2 amps aren't much alike, BTW. You should really try to play both to see which one has the specific TONE you're looking for.

klast · July 1st, 2009, 07:19 AM

I've tried both and IMO the AC4TV combo sounds much better. Nice clean and nice breakup. However, even at the 1/4 W setting it's too loud for breakup at home volume, at least with single coils.

Klas

mistermullens · July 1st, 2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ruger9

Based on that, I'd say the Vox.

The 2 amps aren't much alike, BTW. You should really try to play both to see which one has the specific TONE you're looking for.

I'm inclined to agree here. I've owned a C600 and have yet to play an AC4. It does seem to me that these are voiced differently. For me personally, I would go with the AC4 simply because of the larger speaker. To be honest, I wish companies would stop making amps with speakers less than 8in. If it were up to me, 8in speakers would be banned, but that's just me. I do like the C600 a good bit and wish I hadn't sold mine. It really sounded great through a 10in speaker.

You're obviously looking for a tube amp, but for recording and practicing, don't overlook the Vox Pathfinder 15R. I'm a huge advocate of these great SS amps. Hell, I've even gigged mine.

bouncepogo · July 2nd, 2009, 10:11 AM

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However, even at the 1/4 W setting it's too loud for breakup at home volume, at least with single coils.

I own one and a 1/4 watt breaks up at a very manageable volume.

telebluesrocker · July 2nd, 2009, 11:51 AM

i have a champion 600 but i still say go for the vox, because it will be much more versatile. I recon it is well worth the price increase over the champion.

crockes00 · July 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM

I cant say enough good things about my Vox AC4TV I have the head and 1x12cab. It is awesome I havent played the combo with the 10" but if it sounds 1/100 as good as the head/cab get it. But I am a big promoter of the head/cab.

Inuitdream · July 3rd, 2009, 04:40 AM

i only played the AC4TV. i love it. i am not impressed easily, and am currently using a vox ac50. this amp is the best amp below 5 watts i have tried.

but then again tone is subjective. try both, bring your pedals and your guitar. see what works for you.

klast · July 3rd, 2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bouncepogo

I own one and a 1/4 watt breaks up at a very manageable volume.

Manageable yes, but a bit loud for apartment use.

Klas

Hoodster · July 3rd, 2009, 11:53 AM

Ac4 w/ Gibson SG Jr:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jws3X...eature=related

telefiddler · July 3rd, 2009, 01:27 PM

I have the AC4tv combo and it sounds pretty good. Execellent dirty sounds, far and away better than the champ 600 I have played. Mine doesn't seem to take pedals very well when you have it up over half way on the volume knob. A boost definitely works well though, other than that it is more of just a plug and play kind of amp in my opinion.

June 30th, 2009, 10:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
GhostofJohnToad Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 1,150 7 Photos	Vox AC4TV or Champ 600 I am real close to pulling the plug on one of these. I want to use it for recording mainly and practicing secondly. I don't want to sink any money on tubes, speakers, mods right away - but I'm not adverse to the idea down the road. Of course if I could find either used for a better price than new that might sway me in either direction. Looking for some pros and cons.

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Sterling Indigo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Lansing Posts: 1,277	Pull the plug on the 600 but pull the trigger on the 4. __________________ Tweed is in the underpants!

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rangercaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2008 Location: portland, or Age: 52 Posts: 1,546	the attenuator feature would make the Vox a better choice for me ... __________________ "Work is the curse of the drinking classes." Oscar Wilde

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klast Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Age: 60 Posts: 301	I've tried both and IMO the AC4TV combo sounds much better. Nice clean and nice breakup. However, even at the 1/4 W setting it's too loud for breakup at home volume, at least with single coils. Klas __________________ ...all the times I've had to play while people sat there drunk...

July 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
crockes00 TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Peoria, Illinois Age: 27 Posts: 84	I cant say enough good things about my Vox AC4TV I have the head and 1x12cab. It is awesome I havent played the combo with the 10" but if it sounds 1/100 as good as the head/cab get it. But I am a big promoter of the head/cab. __________________ 2006 MIA Standard Hardtail Strat,1965 TRRI,AV 52RI, Vox AC30CC2, Crockescaster #0001, VOX AC4TVH/V112TV, Vox Night Train/V212BN God is great...Beer is good...People are crazy

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telebluesrocker TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: worcester, uk Age: 16 Posts: 90	i have a champion 600 but i still say go for the vox, because it will be much more versatile. I recon it is well worth the price increase over the champion.

July 3rd, 2009, 04:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Inuitdream NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Asia Age: 34 Posts: 8	i only played the AC4TV. i love it. i am not impressed easily, and am currently using a vox ac50. this amp is the best amp below 5 watts i have tried. but then again tone is subjective. try both, bring your pedals and your guitar. see what works for you.

July 3rd, 2009, 11:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
Hoodster Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 665	Ac4 w/ Gibson SG Jr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jws3X...eature=related __________________ You can add dirt, but you can't add clean.

July 3rd, 2009, 01:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
telefiddler TDPRI Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: US Posts: 14	I have the AC4tv combo and it sounds pretty good. Execellent dirty sounds, far and away better than the champ 600 I have played. Mine doesn't seem to take pedals very well when you have it up over half way on the volume knob. A boost definitely works well though, other than that it is more of just a plug and play kind of amp in my opinion.

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