why so much hatred for the Hot Rod Deluxe?

[Spidercaster]

Originally Posted by evol04gt

.. i LOVE THIS AMP!

Thats all that matters!!!

[Colo Springs E]

Originally Posted by scooteraz

Actually, not once. Nor Webster's, nor Onelook, nor...I done graduated 6th grade I's ready to be a brain surgeon.

I do understand sarcasm, humor, irony, satire, sardonic comments, epigrams and antiphrasis. Unfortunately, I cannot prove, or disprove the use of any of those from the post left by moodus2006.

So, just asking. (in sardonic fashion)

BTW, how many times did you have to go to the dictionary to understand the comment?

Didn't have to go there at all... however, judging by the way your post was constructed, I thought you might've made a recent discovery.

My mistake.

[moodus2006]

Originally Posted by scooteraz

Well, thank you for that well thought out, fully formed and lucid argument. Perhaps you could elucidate in the argo of the erudite as to the nature of your comment, and your critique of my post. Inquiring minds want to know.

O.K., YOU SUCK! Elitist a-hole. Lets just lay it out, is fender, carvin, peavey, **** because they are mass produced? You do know the tele was burst into infamy by being mass produced? It seems a plethora of people do like them. My problem not is in the fact you had no issue with flaming the **** out of the hot rod. My issue is in your suggestive tone, let me guess, you play through a Dr. Z. , your tone is imaculate but your playing sucks. So like men with small ..... you bought a nice amp instead of a truck.

[scooteraz]

Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

Didn't have to go there at all... however, judging by the way your post was constructed, I thought you might've made a recent discovery.

My mistake.

BTW, if you are using Webster's, I suggest you use Onelook instead. Dictonary compilation with cool little words of the day and hour. Builds vocabulary. Remember, if you use a word 3 times in sentences, it's yours!

[collinsman]

Originally Posted by scooteraz

Well, thank you for that well thought out, fully formed and lucid argument. Perhaps you could elucidate in the argo of the erudite as to the nature of your comment, and your critique of my post. Inquiring minds want to know.

For some reason when I read this post, I think of an old adage: " When speaking, don't seek to impress, but rather seek to express."

[scooteraz]

Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

How many times did you have to tab back and forth to dictionary.com to complete your post?

While there, you might want to check out "sarcasm" and "humor."

Well, well, well, looks like I was correct, Moodus2006 couldn't quite read to the end of the original post and note the OBVIOUS "SARCASM OFF" that was there, or didn't understand the meaning of the original post. Perhaps oyou should have asked your question of him.

Originally Posted by moodus2006

O.K., YOU SUCK! Elitist a-hole. Lets just lay it out, is fender, carvin, peavey, **** because they are mass produced? You do know the tele was burst into infamy by being mass produced? It seems a plethora of people do like them. My problem not is in the fact you had no issue with flaming the **** out of the hot rod. My issue is in your suggestive tone, let me guess, you play through a Dr. Z. , your tone is imaculate but your playing sucks. So like men with small ..... you bought a nice amp instead of a truck.

Nice to be lectured by someone who can't read to the end of a post. Let me lay it out for you, the original was SARCASM! Just so YOU understand, here is the dictionary definition (For Colo Springs E, I am lifting this from a dictionary) "witty language used to convey insults or scorn". The scorn I was heaping was on the folks that say such things. Only #1 was relevant. Being clear, tone is between your ears, what sounds good to you sounds good to you, no arguments.

So, before you heap scorn on someone else, perhaps you should read the post to the end, and then think of alternative meanings, then when you don't know (as you obviously did not understand here) ask before heaping scorn on someone. Turns out I agree, there is NOTHING wrong with a Hotrod, or a Carvin or a (put your favorite proletarian mass-produced amp here).

For what it's worth, what I usually play through (and has recieved mixed reviews here and other places) is a mass produced Fender Princeton Recording Amp. Use the amp as a stage monitor, and the direct out to the board. The built in attenuator is very useful on the small stage area we have. The built in effects are not as good as others I have, but work fine n the situation I play in. Yes, I have a couple of nice boutique amps as well (no Dr Zs, but a Victoria and a Fargen), but they usually don't get used due to being louder than needed. Oh, have a Valve Jr. head as well, I like that little amp too, but the son has it right now.

There there, does your ..... feel bigger now that you were able to tell me off? Do you routinely have to tell people off to make your ..... feel bigger?

BTW, I have freely admitted that my playing needs help. My major talents lie elsewhere. But I do enjoy playing, love Teles and have been incredibly blessed so that I can afford more than one and a modicum of other toys to go with. Have the truck as well. Oh, and the ....., it's fine too. Still works right (without meds) after 36 years of marriage....

[scooteraz]

Originally Posted by collinsman

For some reason when I read this post, I think of an old adage: " When speaking, don't seek to impress, but rather seek to express."

Yeah, but it did bring the flamer back out Complete with insults to my Manhood

Language is but a tool.

[TelZilla]

Originally Posted by scooteraz

Well, thank you for that well thought out, fully formed and lucid argument. Perhaps you could elucidate in the argo of the erudite as to the nature of your comment, and your critique of my post. Inquiring minds want to know.

it's "argot"

[EZchair Picker]

No hatred for the HRDs really. Some us just plain don't gel with them. There's not a single aspect of the amp that I liked....but it's not really hatin on my part. That's just the reason that there are so many amps out there....cause there's so many different ears to please!

[moodus2006]

Originally Posted by scooteraz

Well, well, well, looks like I was correct, Moodus2006 couldn't quite read to the end of the original post and note the OBVIOUS "SARCASM OFF" that was there, or didn't understand the meaning of the original post. Perhaps oyou should have asked your question of him.



Nice to be lectured by someone who can't read to the end of a post. Let me lay it out for you, the original was SARCASM! Just so YOU understand, here is the dictionary definition (For Colo Springs E, I am lifting this from a dictionary) "witty language used to convey insults or scorn". The scorn I was heaping was on the folks that say such things. Only #1 was relevant. Being clear, tone is between your ears, what sounds good to you sounds good to you, no arguments.

So, before you heap scorn on someone else, perhaps you should read the post to the end, and then think of alternative meanings, then when you don't know (as you obviously did not understand here) ask before heaping scorn on someone. Turns out I agree, there is NOTHING wrong with a Hotrod, or a Carvin or a (put your favorite proletarian mass-produced amp here).

For what it's worth, what I usually play through (and has recieved mixed reviews here and other places) is a mass produced Fender Princeton Recording Amp. Use the amp as a stage monitor, and the direct out to the board. The built in attenuator is very useful on the small stage area we have. The built in effects are not as good as others I have, but work fine n the situation I play in. Yes, I have a couple of nice boutique amps as well (no Dr Zs, but a Victoria and a Fargen), but they usually don't get used due to being louder than needed. Oh, have a Valve Jr. head as well, I like that little amp too, but the son has it right now.

There there, does your ..... feel bigger now that you were able to tell me off? Do you routinely have to tell people off to make your ..... feel bigger?

BTW, I have freely admitted that my playing needs help. My major talents lie elsewhere. But I do enjoy playing, love Teles and have been incredibly blessed so that I can afford more than one and a modicum of other toys to go with. Have the truck as well. Oh, and the ....., it's fine too. Still works right (without meds) after 36 years of marriage....

Sorry. I guess I over reacted. Won't happen again. I do get off trying to belittle people, it validates my existance.

[EJG1]

Originally Posted by moodus2006

Sorry. I guess I over reacted. Won't happen again. I do get off trying to belittle people, it validates my existance.

LOL. I think we have a post-of-the-day candidate here!!

[brownshoe]

Originally Posted by moodus2006

Sorry. I guess I over reacted. Won't happen again. I do get off trying to belittle people, it validates my existance.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/announcement.php?f=44&a=1
NO PERSONAL ATTACKS:
When someone says something you don't agree with don't turn on them and attack them personally. Don't call people names. Don't resort to school yard bullying tactics. If you find yourself posting about some other poster and what they've done to offend you... that's the first sign that you are going offbase and attacking people personally.

There is a thing here called Ignore Lists and you could be added. If you want to continue going down that road, people may add you and if you do post a query or something actually informative, they won't see it.

Note that not all people are mind readers. If you are being sarcastic or just kidding you should point that out with a smiley perhaps.

[scooteraz]

Originally Posted by TelZilla

it's "argot"

You are correct. Should have spell checked. That happens when ones vocabulary meets ones spelling challenged existence. Not to mention, typing challenged...

It's only a slight difference. Argo: a constellation, Argot: language of a specific group. Close, right?

[TG]

Note that not all people are mind readers. If you are being sarcastic or just kidding you should point that out with a smiley perhaps.

And sometimes even that isn't enough. In the past people have 'hidden behind' smileys by intentionally writing something offensive and then sticking one on the end.

And it can be difficult to see sarcasm and humour in a post if it reads like something that could have been written in all seriousness by someone (which might be what happened here).

[Jammin'John1]

It's wierd.
Someone starts a topic with "how come so much hate for ( )" and if anyone says that they don't like this (amp,guitar,pickup,color,etc.) the people who have one get pissed !

Lot's of great music has been made on cheaply made amps/guitars/PA's etc.
Lot's of great players have played great gigs on cheap equipment.
Maybe they never would have played if that cheap equipment was not around,don't know.

It's all good.


JJ

[brownshoe]

Originally Posted by TG

And sometimes even that isn't enough. In the past people have 'hidden behind' smileys by intentionally writing something offensive and then sticking one on the end.

Yup. When I know someone is being a jerk into the Ignore list they go. It's usually pretty obvious because you can read their personality's most of the time. As good 'ol NRBQ said in "You Can't Hide"...

You can stay in the dark
I don't mind
I can't stand your way
It's not refined
If I should take you home
Well, early tonight you're gonna find out

That you can't hide behind your makeup
You have to let your complexion show
Well, you can't hide
I have to let you know

You can play out your part
I don't mind
But understand
You'll never read your mind
It's not too late to show
Beholding the light
Can make you find out

That you can't hide behind your makeup
You have to let your complexion show
Well, you can't hide
I have to let you know
Ahhh

That you can't hide behind your makeup
You have to let your complexion show
Well, you can't hide
I have to let you know

That you can't hide behind your makeup
You have to let your complexion show
Let your complexion show
Let your complexion show

[JCSouthpawtele]

You have to remember that is is hard to convey sarcasm over a computer screen because other people can't impart the tonality of your voice and gesturing. I am the master of sarcasm and know how to use it....ther not thats the definition.

Now back to you regular programming.

The Input jacks are known for breaking off and Torres Engineering has a mod for that.
The band I run sound for had two of them loaded in the Equipment trailer on top of road cases and PA stack they got bashed around quite a bit and still performed week after week.

[JDaveG]

Hate to resurrect the hate thread, but I have to add this.

I have very expensive gear for the most part, and I love it. Didn't want to compromise on tone, and didn't want to buy something I'm settling for only to have the question in the back of my mind whether I would have been better off spending the extra money to get what I really want.

But I am not that great a player, and I don't play in bars (and if I did, I wouldn't take an Oldfield Club D'Lux with brown ostrich tolex and a cane grill with me). There are players out there who can make me sound amateurish through a Squier Affinity and a $100 solid state amp.

Tone truly is between the ears. And having bought a bit of expensive gear, I am of the firm opinion that most people would be better off buying lessons instead. But for the fact that I can afford gear and lessons, I sure would put myself in that category.