Hey guy's, my new Deluxe Reverb quit............

JerryPro · April 2nd, 2004, 11:18 PM

I just added brand new 65 Deluxe Reverb Re-issue about 3 weeks ago. I noticed Sunday night that it didn't want to come on. The light was not burning. I flipped the switch a few times and it came on. I played through the set and everything seemed fine.

Every night since them it came on fine and I thought that where I was playing that night must have had freaky electricity or something. Wednesday night I heard it go "grrrrrrrrr" for about 10 seconds and stop. I pulled the cord out of it and it did it again for 10 seconds and three more times with the same cyclic intervals.

Thursday night it wouldn't come on at all.

?????????????What the heck do you think has happened to my amp. Have any of you ever heard of such???????????????

:?

BTW, this is NOT a joke.

Silverface · April 3rd, 2004, 01:04 AM

It's on warranty - take it in for service.

You could check for a simple thing like a loose fuse - but it's likely beyond that.

PapaBeef · April 3rd, 2004, 04:38 PM

If you're at all connected, maybe the store where you bought it will replace it for you.
That really sucks, though.
It's probably a defective switch or some equally stupid thing that they can probably repair in about 30 minutes. But it'll have to sit in the shop for a month before they even touch it.
Good Luck.

JTM45blues · April 3rd, 2004, 08:30 PM

Sorry to poo poo on you, but this is just another reason I won't buy one of those amps EVER AGAIN!!! I had one and it cost me $150 of MY MONEY after Fender refused to repair it under the 'wonderful' 5 year warranty. Never again, never again. For the record I bought the amp from a Fender dealer in my area, and it was BRAND NEW. It just kept not working for various reasons. Finally after giving the local "Fender repair shop" 3 chances to fix it right, I took it to another shop in my area, and still it wasn't fixed completely "right", so not only did I trade away my highly collectable Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+, I also took a $200 loss when I sold it, and another $150 of my own money. Fender wouldn't even stand behind their product and give me a new one, they just threw their hands up in the air, and basically didn't give a darn. Again, I state, never again, never again.

Good luck with yours, I really hope it works out better for you than it did for me.

JerryPro · April 4th, 2004, 01:49 AM

I called the store where I got it and they don't have any as they had to order mine in. They told me to bring it in and they would fix it. Fortunately they have an excellent tech there that came from Mesa, Fender, and Ampeg. He actually does some wonderful mods to these amps. I have made friends with him over the past couple of years and I feel that he will take care of me. If I take it in he is going to do a couple of things like add reverb to the normal channel, etc.

Now the weird part. It has started to work again. Now I can't get it to act up at all. This has been going on for the last two nights. I'm afraid to gig with it though.

It's even stopped making that "grrr" noise.

Now I don't know what to do because if I take it in they will say there's nothing wrong. If I take it to gig it will probably go down.

I think I should trade it for a Peavey Classic or something. :?

GilmourD · April 4th, 2004, 06:04 AM

Well, the thing is... If he is a good tech, he'll do his damnedest to make it break again. At my store, our tech is really an electrical engineer (he used to work for Bell Labs), and I've watched him wiggle every component in an amp to see if it causes oddness.

Now, the funny thing is... These amps really aren't THAT complicated, so I don't get why JTM45 had such a hassle.

My question is... Does it do it on both channels, or just one? If so, that isolates it to the phase inverter on. If it only does it on one channel, that isolates it to one of the preamps. That GRRRing noise may also be faulty filter caps or maybe even a horrible ground in your house. I had a problem where my amp would make a weird whistling noise in cycles and the whistle would end with a snap. It did it a few times, but the last time it did it, I also had the speakers on my computer up pretty loud while the amp was on. That's when I realized I heard the noise in stereo. Turned out to be a faulty ground on my outlets.

PapaBeef · April 4th, 2004, 01:11 PM

I don't do electronics myself. But I've been in home improvements & repairs for almost 30 years. And it's the same thing...
Soon as they try to show me the problem, there is no more problem.
I often have to spend as much time, or even more, trying to make whatever the thing is do whatever it was the thing was supposed to have been doin'.
But I've found that only a few of my customers were complete loons. Most problems would actually show if I took the time to look for them.
I agree, a good tech should be able to find and fix the problem for you.
It could take a little while. But if you're on good terms with him and parts aren't an issue, I'm sure he can have you giggin' with it again soon.
It doesn't sound like the kind of problem that would be that tough to troubleshoot.

Stan Martin · April 4th, 2004, 03:30 PM

find out before you do anything

PapaBeef · April 4th, 2004, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Martin

find out before you do anything

Yeah. That's another thing. I'd bet it would.
It's probably not really that big a deal considering the "value" of most warranties.
But I'd make sure the origional problem is fixed before doing anything else, just in case ya need ta tellem ta stick it up their nose.

JerryPro · April 5th, 2004, 12:15 AM

GilmourD: It does it on both channels or even if one is not in use at all. What I mean is when it starts it's "grr"ing I can take the jack out and it still does it. It will stop on it's own or if I slap (not hard) the top or rock it. When it won't power up it just won't power up at all. The jewel will not even light.

Stan and Papa: That's a good point about the warranty. I really would like to have reverb on both sides. The main reason is I don't prefer the bright cap that is on the right side.

GilmourD · April 5th, 2004, 01:45 AM

The Deluxe is one of those amps you can't jumper both channels on, right? If I remember correctly, both channels are out of phase. Otherwise, I'd say jumper away. :) If you can, keep the volume on the Vibrato side lower than the Normal side, and run the 'verb a bit higher than you would normally. You'd get your clean signal and your 'verbed signal, and the verb would have a bit more high end sparkle.

Ramblin Ray · April 9th, 2004, 10:21 PM

Get a Rivera. Great tone and reliability.

Lyle Caldwell · April 10th, 2004, 01:16 AM

Dunno about the RI, but on my old '64 you absolutely could jumper the channels. And I did.

BTW, on the RI, there is a cap across the volume lugs on the reverb channel you can snip or replace to get rid of the excessive brightness.

And it sounds like you have a bad solder joint post phase inverter or a loose power tube socket/bad power tube.

April 2nd, 2004, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
JerryPro Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arkansas(Razorbacks) Age: 47 Posts: 556	Hey guy's, my new Deluxe Reverb quit............ I just added brand new 65 Deluxe Reverb Re-issue about 3 weeks ago. I noticed Sunday night that it didn't want to come on. The light was not burning. I flipped the switch a few times and it came on. I played through the set and everything seemed fine. Every night since them it came on fine and I thought that where I was playing that night must have had freaky electricity or something. Wednesday night I heard it go "grrrrrrrrr" for about 10 seconds and stop. I pulled the cord out of it and it did it again for 10 seconds and three more times with the same cyclic intervals. Thursday night it wouldn't come on at all. ?????????????What the heck do you think has happened to my amp. Have any of you ever heard of such??????????????? :? BTW, this is NOT a joke. __________________ ...it's not the load that breaks you down it's the way in which you carry it.

April 3rd, 2004, 01:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Silverface Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach CA Age: 56 Posts: 1,934	It's on warranty - take it in for service. You could check for a simple thing like a loose fuse - but it's likely beyond that. __________________ “No Chops – Great Tone” ©

April 3rd, 2004, 04:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
PapaBeef Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: EN JAY Posts: 406	If you're at all connected, maybe the store where you bought it will replace it for you. That really sucks, though. It's probably a defective switch or some equally stupid thing that they can probably repair in about 30 minutes. But it'll have to sit in the shop for a month before they even touch it. Good Luck. __________________ What I mean is, sometimes I just don't know what I mean. Ya know what I mean?

April 4th, 2004, 01:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
JerryPro Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arkansas(Razorbacks) Age: 47 Posts: 556	Well, now it works again????????? I called the store where I got it and they don't have any as they had to order mine in. They told me to bring it in and they would fix it. Fortunately they have an excellent tech there that came from Mesa, Fender, and Ampeg. He actually does some wonderful mods to these amps. I have made friends with him over the past couple of years and I feel that he will take care of me. If I take it in he is going to do a couple of things like add reverb to the normal channel, etc. Now the weird part. It has started to work again. Now I can't get it to act up at all. This has been going on for the last two nights. I'm afraid to gig with it though. It's even stopped making that "grrr" noise. Now I don't know what to do because if I take it in they will say there's nothing wrong. If I take it to gig it will probably go down. I think I should trade it for a Peavey Classic or something. :? __________________ ...it's not the load that breaks you down it's the way in which you carry it.

April 4th, 2004, 01:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
PapaBeef Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: EN JAY Posts: 406	I don't do electronics myself. But I've been in home improvements & repairs for almost 30 years. And it's the same thing... Soon as they try to show me the problem, there is no more problem. I often have to spend as much time, or even more, trying to make whatever the thing is do whatever it was the thing was supposed to have been doin'. But I've found that only a few of my customers were complete loons. Most problems would actually show if I took the time to look for them. I agree, a good tech should be able to find and fix the problem for you. It could take a little while. But if you're on good terms with him and parts aren't an issue, I'm sure he can have you giggin' with it again soon. It doesn't sound like the kind of problem that would be that tough to troubleshoot. __________________ What I mean is, sometimes I just don't know what I mean. Ya know what I mean?

April 3rd, 2004, 08:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
JTM45blues Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 421	Sorry to poo poo on you, but this is just another reason I won't buy one of those amps EVER AGAIN!!! I had one and it cost me $150 of MY MONEY after Fender refused to repair it under the 'wonderful' 5 year warranty. Never again, never again. For the record I bought the amp from a Fender dealer in my area, and it was BRAND NEW. It just kept not working for various reasons. Finally after giving the local "Fender repair shop" 3 chances to fix it right, I took it to another shop in my area, and still it wasn't fixed completely "right", so not only did I trade away my highly collectable Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+, I also took a $200 loss when I sold it, and another $150 of my own money. Fender wouldn't even stand behind their product and give me a new one, they just threw their hands up in the air, and basically didn't give a darn. Again, I state, never again, never again. Good luck with yours, I really hope it works out better for you than it did for me.

April 4th, 2004, 06:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
GilmourD Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nutley, NJ Age: 29 Posts: 1,571	Well, the thing is... If he is a good tech, he'll do his damnedest to make it break again. At my store, our tech is really an electrical engineer (he used to work for Bell Labs), and I've watched him wiggle every component in an amp to see if it causes oddness. Now, the funny thing is... These amps really aren't THAT complicated, so I don't get why JTM45 had such a hassle. My question is... Does it do it on both channels, or just one? If so, that isolates it to the phase inverter on. If it only does it on one channel, that isolates it to one of the preamps. That GRRRing noise may also be faulty filter caps or maybe even a horrible ground in your house. I had a problem where my amp would make a weird whistling noise in cycles and the whistle would end with a snap. It did it a few times, but the last time it did it, I also had the speakers on my computer up pretty loud while the amp was on. That's when I realized I heard the noise in stereo. Turned out to be a faulty ground on my outlets.

April 4th, 2004, 03:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Stan Martin Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pepperell Posts: 818	will modding it void the warranty? find out before you do anything __________________ http://cdbaby.com/cd/stanmartin3

April 5th, 2004, 12:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
JerryPro Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arkansas(Razorbacks) Age: 47 Posts: 556	GilmourD: It does it on both channels or even if one is not in use at all. What I mean is when it starts it's "grr"ing I can take the jack out and it still does it. It will stop on it's own or if I slap (not hard) the top or rock it. When it won't power up it just won't power up at all. The jewel will not even light. Stan and Papa: That's a good point about the warranty. I really would like to have reverb on both sides. The main reason is I don't prefer the bright cap that is on the right side. __________________ ...it's not the load that breaks you down it's the way in which you carry it.

April 5th, 2004, 01:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
GilmourD Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nutley, NJ Age: 29 Posts: 1,571	The Deluxe is one of those amps you can't jumper both channels on, right? If I remember correctly, both channels are out of phase. Otherwise, I'd say jumper away. :) If you can, keep the volume on the Vibrato side lower than the Normal side, and run the 'verb a bit higher than you would normally. You'd get your clean signal and your 'verbed signal, and the verb would have a bit more high end sparkle.

April 9th, 2004, 10:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ramblin Ray Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 412	Get a Rivera. Great tone and reliability.

April 10th, 2004, 01:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
Lyle Caldwell Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 535	Dunno about the RI, but on my old '64 you absolutely could jumper the channels. And I did. BTW, on the RI, there is a cap across the volume lugs on the reverb channel you can snip or replace to get rid of the excessive brightness. And it sounds like you have a bad solder joint post phase inverter or a loose power tube socket/bad power tube. __________________ "Everybody sings about Memphis, but nobody ever does anything about it."