jensen ri ?

racehorse · March 15th, 2004, 10:13 PM

I have these in a RI bassman , and they sound good at low volume, have a small window of nice crunch, and then give up ,rat out.

after reading the post on the victoria 35310 below I thought I`d ask. Do these things sound anything like an original P10R.?
do the other jensen Ri offerings sound like the origenals?

I always wondered why a company like Victoria used them?
racehorse

Tremo · March 15th, 2004, 10:21 PM

Yo Race,

Actually the "reissue" P10Rs from Jensen do not sound like the originals. They sound OK, not great, not terrible. If they're "giving it up" a bit too early for you, sopunds like you want the next beefier version, the P10Q. Weber makes a very nice P10Q, and Jensen is now reissuing these as well.

The reason that Vicky uses the Jensens instead of the superior Webers, is,,,,,uhhh,,,,,political. I do not feel right saying anything more, you'd need to ask Ted and Mark if you want more info.

racehorse · March 15th, 2004, 11:33 PM

Hi Tremo,
Not having ever heard real P10r,or Q . I have nothing to compare to.

so you think the webers sound like an original?

I`ve considered the weber 10a125s

Racehorse

Tremo · March 16th, 2004, 08:31 PM

Yo Race,

No, the Webers don't sound exactly like the originals either. The Webers will have a fuller and more controlled low end, and also a smoother high end. They may also be a tad louder.

The Weber 10A125 is a good choice for what it sounds like you're looking for.

5965 · March 17th, 2004, 10:27 AM

Weber makes two different versions each of the 10A100 (P10R version) and 10A125 (P10Q version). I've not seen a good comparison of their sounds.

People seem to gravitate toward the 10A100-T or the 10A125-O.

The Jensens aren't bad, but they take a while to break in. I heard one in a '59 Bassman with three original P10R's and it was indistinguishable from them by sound. The company may have altered the speakers over time.

The blue Fenders are also decent.

If you find anything you like, be sure to post the results. A lot of people are looking for speakers.

Silverface · March 17th, 2004, 11:29 AM

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The company may have altered the speakers over time.

Actually, the Jensen RI speakers aren't made by the same company as the original Jensens, nor are they the same design...so the can't be any changes by the company,. as the company didn't exist until a few years ago.

The only thing the same are the Jensen logo and the model numbers - but the model numbers don't directly correlate sonically to originals.

As said previously, some people like them and some don't. But the name "Jensen" should be ignored as far as any comparison to classic Jensen speakers goes.

T-bone Tone · March 17th, 2004, 01:01 PM

The Jensen replacement speaker guide actually recommended the cheaper P10R for my Fender Super Champ over the P10Q.

It is excellent, easily as good as the original speaker if not better. I have had no problem with it fading or breaking up at volume, or any crap like that. Of course, the amp is a classic and gives a phenomenal sound, but I am more than happy with the Jensen. It looks pretty damm good, too. Somehow, I think I'll get my sleep despite it not being 'quite' like the original 'they-don't- make-'em-like-that-anymore' etc etc. Snoooooze.

As I have said before on this forum, don't always fall for marketing, and don't pay more than you need to; it isn't gonna necessarily make you a better player buying a super expensive speaker, or amp, or guitar.

fezz parka · March 17th, 2004, 02:22 PM

IMO, RI Jensen P10R's sound nothing like the real thing. I have two from '56 and two from '59 is my BFSR. In a side by side comparison with the speakers in a BFSR RI (using my amp through both my speakers and the ones in the RI) the originals blew the RI's away. They are a sheep in wolfs clothing. The may look like Jensen's, but they ain't Jensens. Buy Ted's speakers and pound the crap out of them to break 'em in, and you'll be a whole lot closer to the Jensens of yesteryear that the stuff Recotron is trying to pass off as the real thing.

5965 · March 17th, 2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverface

Quote:

The company may have altered the speakers over time.

Actually, the Jensen RI speakers aren't made by the same company as the original Jensens, nor are they the same design...so the can't be any changes by the company,. as the company didn't exist until a few years ago.

I was speaking of the Jensen RI's being changed since their inception by the company that makes them.

March 15th, 2004, 10:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
racehorse Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 144	jensen ri ? I have these in a RI bassman , and they sound good at low volume, have a small window of nice crunch, and then give up ,rat out. after reading the post on the victoria 35310 below I thought I`d ask. Do these things sound anything like an original P10R.? do the other jensen Ri offerings sound like the origenals? I always wondered why a company like Victoria used them? racehorse

March 15th, 2004, 11:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
racehorse Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 144	Tremo Hi Tremo, Not having ever heard real P10r,or Q . I have nothing to compare to. so you think the webers sound like an original? I`ve considered the weber 10a125s Racehorse

March 15th, 2004, 10:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Yo Race, Actually the "reissue" P10Rs from Jensen do not sound like the originals. They sound OK, not great, not terrible. If they're "giving it up" a bit too early for you, sopunds like you want the next beefier version, the P10Q. Weber makes a very nice P10Q, and Jensen is now reissuing these as well. The reason that Vicky uses the Jensens instead of the superior Webers, is,,,,,uhhh,,,,,political. I do not feel right saying anything more, you'd need to ask Ted and Mark if you want more info.

March 16th, 2004, 08:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tremo Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,803	Yo Race, No, the Webers don't sound exactly like the originals either. The Webers will have a fuller and more controlled low end, and also a smoother high end. They may also be a tad louder. The Weber 10A125 is a good choice for what it sounds like you're looking for.

March 17th, 2004, 10:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
5965 Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 738	Weber makes two different versions each of the 10A100 (P10R version) and 10A125 (P10Q version). I've not seen a good comparison of their sounds. People seem to gravitate toward the 10A100-T or the 10A125-O. The Jensens aren't bad, but they take a while to break in. I heard one in a '59 Bassman with three original P10R's and it was indistinguishable from them by sound. The company may have altered the speakers over time. The blue Fenders are also decent. If you find anything you like, be sure to post the results. A lot of people are looking for speakers.

March 17th, 2004, 01:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
T-bone Tone Banned Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 321	The Jensen replacement speaker guide actually recommended the cheaper P10R for my Fender Super Champ over the P10Q. It is excellent, easily as good as the original speaker if not better. I have had no problem with it fading or breaking up at volume, or any crap like that. Of course, the amp is a classic and gives a phenomenal sound, but I am more than happy with the Jensen. It looks pretty damm good, too. Somehow, I think I'll get my sleep despite it not being 'quite' like the original 'they-don't- make-'em-like-that-anymore' etc etc. Snoooooze. As I have said before on this forum, don't always fall for marketing, and don't pay more than you need to; it isn't gonna necessarily make you a better player buying a super expensive speaker, or amp, or guitar.

March 17th, 2004, 02:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
fezz parka Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: A town south of Bakersfield... Posts: 1,283 45 Photos	IMO, RI Jensen P10R's sound nothing like the real thing. I have two from '56 and two from '59 is my BFSR. In a side by side comparison with the speakers in a BFSR RI (using my amp through both my speakers and the ones in the RI) the originals blew the RI's away. They are a sheep in wolfs clothing. The may look like Jensen's, but they ain't Jensens. Buy Ted's speakers and pound the crap out of them to break 'em in, and you'll be a whole lot closer to the Jensens of yesteryear that the stuff Recotron is trying to pass off as the real thing.