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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
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Anybody use the Egnater Rebel?
It got good reviews in GP and VG recently. How does it sound with a Tele? Other thoughts/opinions on it?
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There's another little amp on my radar...........
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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i've got one with the matching 1x12" cab, and i absolutely love it....
i'm not currently gigging, though i am tracking in my home studio....the Rebel's capable of quite a range of tones, an' i haven't heard a bad sound out of it yet.... |
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drooooooool....................
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Circleville, OH
Age: 35
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It's a sweet little amp. I don't own one but I looked at it hard before buying the more budget friendly Blackstar HT-5. If you haven't already, do a YouTube search for the Rebel. There's some good vids/reviews there as well.
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Yes, it's that good ! in fact, i've been thinkin' about getting the matching 2x12" cab as well..... |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Virginia
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Thanks, just what I need. My GAS had been in check for quite a while now . . . One of things that the GP reviewer really liked was the ability to switch different tube combinations. |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Thanks for the input. I believe I might visit the local GC tomorrow.
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. Louis
Age: 21
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I've been looking for a new amp to replace my Hot Rod Deluxe for a while (too muddy, never enjoyed any of the sounds all that much). I brought my Tele to GC today because I've been eyeing the Egnater for a while, though I've never played it. All I can say is WOW. This is how an amp is supposed to sound. I loved playing beautiful, chimey open chords and being able to pick out every note, and cranking the gain to hear how hard it rocks. This thing is plenty loud and I will not miss the extra 20 watts from the Hot Rod Deluxe. I am returning tomorrow with an unused pedal to get my 15% off the head with the 2x12 cab. I'm so excited, tomorrow is new amp day!
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: IH-35, Texas
Age: 26
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A friend has one, plays a tele, and it sounds fantastic. It does some varied tones very well. Nice, warm tone and pretty easy to get into a bit 'o compression.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I'm going to have to go try this amp out at GC. I wasn't crazy about the soundclips I heard (the overdrive was too metal for my taste), but that could very well have been the settings the player was using. I wonder how long till these start showing up on ebay and craigslist? $599's a good deal, but a slightly-used one at a couple of hundred bucks less would be an even better deal.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: MV, CA
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I just spent and hour with one, tele and strat guitars, and it's pretty amazing. There is a 6V6 circuit and a EL84 circuit. You can use either one or blend the two. It goes from sounding like a tweed delux to voxAC30 to a low wattage marshall. It can do massively dirty to crunchy metal to clean if you need it. Probably one of the most innovative designs I have seen in years. Add the 12 inch cabinet and maybe a 2 x10 cabinet and you have a very versatile range of sounds. Only downside is no reverb but that can be supplied easy enough. Another upside is the weight, very light.
Thumbs up here. 5 out of 5 stars. |
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Nashville Tn.
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Rebel 20!!
I bought one of these amps back in Dec. and have played one live gig with it and used it quite often in the studio.....They are becoming a favorite little amp of all the studio guys here in town....Mainly because they have such a wide variety of tones and at the same time are plenty loud and you can sling them on your shoulder with the gig bag that comes with the amp and carry in all 15 lbs. of it over your shoulder!!!!!
On the live gig in a medium volume setting the amp did fine at keeping up thru a 1-12 Celestion boogie sized cabnet....I've even used it in the studio with a 4-12 Marshall style bottom and it sounded great and very huge sounding..... If your looking for a 6V6 amp....a tweed deluxe will beat it.....and if you're looking for Vox sound a Vox will beat it....BUT.....the amp sounds absolutely great and comes really close to both of these holy grails The two hippest things it has is a wattage feature that lets you select between 1 and 20 watts.... AND a pan pot that sweeps between el84 tubes (Vox ac 15 style) and 6v6 tubes (tweed and blackfave Deluxe amp) This feature is revolutionary in amps and I would love to see people explore this more!!!!! And I will say that the first time I played one at GC I was playing it for 10 minutes thinking that this is a boutique amp in the 3K range.....I was truely shock to learn it was $599 Thanks Bill Hullett |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: California
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It sounds great with a Tele. Sounds great with everything, actually.
This is just about the only piece of gear I've ever owned where I felt the hype was justified. Very broad range of sounds, ALL of them wonderful. I use the 20 watt setting all the time, because the master volume implementation in this amp works really well. I also mostly leave the tube selector halfway between 6V6 and EL84; there's a nice rich, complex tone there. My favorite features, though, are the bright and tight switches. Together, they solve a major problem I've always had with tube amp distortion -- that feeling like you're always teetering on the verge of mush. The bright switch makes the amp REALLY bright, so you can compensate for the treble you lose when the crunch goes on. And the tight switch somehow tightens up the bottom just right, when you sense the flab coming on. I can't really imitate a Fender or a Vox or a Marshall with the Egnater, but that's perfectly OK. The Egnater has a nice voice of its own, and enough ways to shape the tone that you can TRULY fine-tune it.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: MV, CA
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I would say yes if the band is not too loud. It has a master and gain knob and I went to a clean mode with the 20 watt switch on it was more than I could stand in a room about 20x20. If your band is loud it would be right on the edge of usable. Beyond this I would pipe it into the mains and run it back through foldback.
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I owned one this weekend for about 12 hours. It doesn't have any clean headroom to speak of at a decent volume. It does what it does VERY well, but it's all about gain. I have a Reverend Kingsnake that I can run on 20 watts that has much more headroom and can do an okay Marshall-like crunch as well. The Egnater had simply stupid amounts of gain on tap. It has an anemic and quiet clean sound that suddenly gives way to a great "just starting to break up" sound and gets crunchier from there. The tube selection knob was a lot of fun. I was very tempted to keep it anyway, but it wasn't what I was looking for. Mike Molenda's review in GP stating he was getting Duane Eddy tones was a bit misleading IMHO. I had really long and really fun afternoon coming to my decision to return it.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alameda, CA
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It gets rave reviews just about everywhere, especially TGP but it isn't a clean type of amp. For most folks who want clean (depending on how clean and how loud) are going to be looking for a much different amp and probably something with 30 or more watts. The Rebel is a medium/high gain amp that can blend two voices, with a good amount of control, in a small, light weight, feature packed, low price. I am sure it is going to be very successful. It is high on my list.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I'm pretty sure it's Chinese. That said, it is built like a brick. Another issue down the road for users is that the tubes are pretty hard to get at. They will eventually need troubleshooting and replacing. It appears that one would have to remove the whole chassis to do this.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chicago
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Although it took some time, I'm glad this thread finally got down to the clean headroom discussion - a fairly important factor for a lot of us who play 1) clean much of the time and 2) like one channel amps. I personally play clean most of the time and use a Fulltone Fulldrive for grit, so this makes me feel better that I invested $150 more for a ptp Winfield Cyclone a couple months ago vs. this amp.
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Age: 23
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I tried one out in GC today. Overall impression of the amp was good. The 6L6s and EL84s really do sound different and being able to blend them is a cool feature. I played an American Strat through it and got some nice clean tones and used an epiphone les paul for some overdrive. If you crank up the gain, the 6L6's give you more of a smooth, thick mesa boogie type of overdrive (as opposed to a raspy, flabby Fender type of overdrive *ducks for cover*). (Note: I have not played a real mesa boogie - this is based off of the mesa boogie sound on two different modelers I've owned and a band that I know uses them).
I was really surprised at how loud this thing was. I turned the watt dial down to 1, and figured I could probably open up the gain and master a bit. Nope. If I had the gain above halfway, I had to keep the master below 9 o'clock, just a hair above where it starts to really turn on. Bear in mind that I was two feet away from the amp and was trying to not be that jerk who drowns out everyone else at guitar center. Doing the math in my head, I suppose 1 watt is only 13 dBs quieter than 20 watts, so my expectations for 1 watt being quiet may have been unreasonable. My experience here naturally doesn't speak much to gig volume levels. |
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i'm lovin' this wee lil' amp ! |
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Played one for about 30 minutes at GC just now....
....my impressions:
Agree, very versatile in terms of types of tones you can get out of it. I think the clean headroom was pretty danged good, at least running it thru a used Marshall 4x10 JCM enclosure. (Granted, those are probably pretty high wattage speakers) Oddly enough, couldn't tell a lot of difference between 1w and 20w. Hmmm? Agree, the 6l6 vs the 84s is a good bit different, as is the tone with the bright and/or tight switch on or off. I like it! The dealbreaker for me? No reverb. I'm not a 'verb junkie, but I do like me some every now and then, especially for noodling around in the living room and for adding depth to solos. Man I wish they'd have put reverb in this little sucker.
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I think the issue with this amp is that it doesn't have the clean headroom. Too bad it doesn't come in that flavor. I wish they could dial in a pristine clean headroom with the 6V6 side and then tweed it out on the other...... THAT's sweet.....
Actually how about just a clean 6V6 side and a hairier 6V6 side..... and a blend knob? Please add REVERB..... thank you! |
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