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Old August 21st, 2008, 12:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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silvertone opinions and how much to pay

There's a guy locally selling a Silvertone 1472 on eBay. Based solely on pictures, this amp looks nearly pristine. No rust at all, a little bit of corner wear on the cabinet, everything's nice and shiny. No foot pedal.

So... I'm thinking about getting into the bidding war. I've heard good things about the Silvertones but would like opinions from the TDPRI on this particular model. What kind of tone can I expect, what's it similar to, etc.? I currently play through a Fender G-Dec and a Epi Valve Jr. (rev. 3). I'm mostly a bedroom player, but with aspirations to eventually play out.

Also, what do you think is a good ceiling price for this model in what appears to be excellent condition? Bidding is currently up around $100 with 4 days to go.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 02:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My memory of the is mostly the distinct smell they make while burning up.

The price w/ 4 days to go has little to do with the actual price. Factor in the price for repairs if you are actually going to use it much.

They are an ok amp, not spectacular IMHO.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 02:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i wouldn't buy a silvertone off ebay...

I have two silvertones of my own
a twin twelve, and a 1472

the 1472's came with utah speakers, which are "eh" compared to the speakers in the twins.

if I'm looking at the right ad, the seller says:

"I'll include a NOS 6X4 rectifier with this amp because this is the first one to go with use."

that raises flags for me.


any way, I bought a pristine 1472 on sunset blvd, 18 months ago (where prices are on the higher side of the curve) for 350... with tax.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 03:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old August 21st, 2008, 05:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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$250-300 if it's really nice. plenty of folks love 'em.
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This one's a 1482:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/msg/806342202.html

I personally know the seller, and have seen the amp (though I haven't heard it). It is what he says it is...

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Old August 21st, 2008, 09:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What about 1465's? I'm getting ready to sell one, (head only, I don't have the speakers) and noticed the exact same amp on ebay with a Buy it Now of 300,00. Is this representative of what these old amps are bringing, or is it just someone with delusions of grandeur?
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Old August 21st, 2008, 11:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What kind of tone can I expect, what's it similar to, etc.? I currently play through a Fender G-Dec and a Epi Valve Jr. (rev. 3). I'm mostly a bedroom player, but with aspirations to eventually play out.

Also, what do you think is a good ceiling price for this model in what appears to be excellent condition? Bidding is currently up around $100 with 4 days to go.

My 2 cents:
They are cool for the "wow, that's an old amp" vibe, but in my opinion, if they can't be had very cheaply, they can't begin to compete with store bought amps. In other words, yes, they're cool, and they've got a vintage sound to them. But when you close your eyes, I bet the Epi and the G-dec sound pretty cool too (for the money).

I'm not bashing the Silvertones. It's just that, frankly, amps made today don't suck.

A lot of the tone in the vintage "practice" amps also comes from the speakers, which are usually on the brink of being fried (in my experience), and Silvertone usually didn't put Celestions in its amps to begin with. But hey, if you want that sound, just run a new amp through an old speaker. They're cheap.

I got my Silvertone on eBay for 35 bucks (shipping was maybe 30). The seller said that it "worked great." I guess he meant that it didn't hum, and it didn't. But then again, it was completely dead, so it's not surprising that it didn't hum. By the time I recapped it (pretty easy with silvertones, usually) and installed an Isolation Transformer (because I don't want to die; it was a hot-chassis design), it was a cool vintage amp again.

Better sounding than an Epi or G-Dec? Naw.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 11:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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pistolsteve.. if you are really interested in it you should email that guy and make the drive to check it out. old amps that clean are getting harder to find every day.

i'd take that old silvertone over the g-dec or the epi junior any day of the week and i'd never look back. just my .02
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i've got a '62 1482 & love it, especially with my full hollow Archtops....
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i'd take that old silvertone over the g-dec or the epi junior any day of the week and i'd never look back. just my .02
+1 Some of those old Silvertones come with a Jensen speaker. That's a real bonus. But even if not a Jensen, the other speaker that was used is a good sounding speaker. They say that the 1472's and 1482's are supposed to be real similar to a 5e3 Tweed Deluxe. If that's even close, then you've got a great rockin' amp, for not much $. I'm lovin mine.
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+1 Some of those old Silvertones come with a Jensen speaker. That's a real bonus. But even if not a Jensen, the other speaker that was used is a good sounding speaker. They say that the 1472's and 1482's are supposed to be real similar to a 5e3 Tweed Deluxe. If that's even close, then you've got a great rockin' amp, for not much $. I'm lovin mine.
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In original condition 200-225 is very fair.
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Personally I'd rather just get one with original tubes as aesthetics have never been one of my strong suits with Amps.
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Old August 22nd, 2008, 06:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Better sounding than an Epi or G-Dec? Naw.[/quote]


I have a 1472 that has been gone through (new Caps and tubes checked ect and I built a 5e3 clone sound wise they are pretty much identical except the Silvertone as a nice vibrato which is a plus. For all intents and purposes they are Silvertone's (Danelectro) version of a Fender Tweed Delux
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Howdy,

Just got my 1482 up & running by replacing it's original 12ax7s. Plugged my Gibson Les Paul Sp. in and let 'er rip. Holy COW! This amp is an overdrive machine. Think "LaGrange" or almost anything my George Thorogood. It's short on treble but probably has modification potential. If only I knew how to modify..

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PS: the "mods" I'd have in mind would be how to increase this amp's meager headroom.
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