Avatar cab specs for 100w head (tech question)

Atticus 3 8 97 · May 10th, 2008, 12:49 AM

hey, i am considering downsizing my 412 peavey valveking to a 212 avatar cab, i was wondering what kind of speakers will be necessary so that everything is good for watts and ohms etc

here are some specs on my head:

100 watts (rms) into 16, 8, or 4 ohms (switchable)
Four 6L6GC and three 12AX7 tubes

and avatar speaker options

Custom Assembled Contemporary $379. with your choice of
Celestion: Vintage 30s, G12H30s, G12T75s, Greenbacks, Classic Lead 80s, Hellatone 30s, Hellatone 60s and G12K100 -16 ohm

Price with Alnico or Heritage would be as follows:

Any Heritage combo (G12H, G12M or G12-65)

$569. plus $34 shipping

Alnico Golds or Blues $729. plus $34 shipping

Choice of 4 ohm cab, 8 ohm cab, 16 ohm cab, stereo cab or mono cab.

i would like to stick to the first category because of price.. anybody know what will be required for my cab to match well with my head? im a technical moron so any help would be greatly appreciated

also...

someone on another forum suggested vintage 30's

my question is...

vintage 30's appear to be 60 watt speakers, with 8ohms or 16ohms, so i know the ohms will work cause i have a switch on the back of my head that is either 4, 8, or 16 ohms

and even though it is a 100watt head, its ok to have 60 watt speakers?

thanks i appreciate it

JohnnyCrash · May 10th, 2008, 01:39 AM

When it comes to multiple speakers, you combine their total wattage handling.

Two 60 watt speakers have a 120 watt rating.

As far as matching you amp... it's all taste. Make sure your amp is set to the impedance of the cab (depending on number of speakers, the cab will have a total impedance rating, Avatar sells them in preset impedance configurations).

For a 100w Peavey head, I'm assuming you're playing hard rock? I love Vintage 30s for hard rock (for all kinds of music for that matter).

Atticus 3 8 97 · May 10th, 2008, 02:11 AM

yeah i play some hard rock, as well as some lighter strokes-ish type stuff as well, i've heard great things about vintage 30's and i listened to them on the website and they sound really good

i'm still open for suggestions but this alternative sounds very appealing

thanks for your help

Schnauzer · May 12th, 2008, 03:24 PM

I would talk to Dave at Avatar. He has tons of experience and plays classic rock himself. He has always steered me right. His number is (208) 762-5251 Dave goes the extra mile for TDPRI members too.

Jim

Scott S · May 12th, 2008, 03:38 PM

FWIW, if you end up mixing different speakers, you want to multiply the one with the smallest rating. For example, if you have a 15W speaker and a 25W speaker in your cabinet, it's best not to put more than 30W into it.

vanr · May 12th, 2008, 03:45 PM

I like the Vintage 30/GT-75 mix. Still a 120 watt cab though.

May 10th, 2008, 12:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Atticus 3 8 97 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, MA Age: 20 Posts: 182	Avatar cab specs for 100w head (tech question) hey, i am considering downsizing my 412 peavey valveking to a 212 avatar cab, i was wondering what kind of speakers will be necessary so that everything is good for watts and ohms etc here are some specs on my head: 100 watts (rms) into 16, 8, or 4 ohms (switchable) Four 6L6GC and three 12AX7 tubes and avatar speaker options Custom Assembled Contemporary $379. with your choice of Celestion: Vintage 30s, G12H30s, G12T75s, Greenbacks, Classic Lead 80s, Hellatone 30s, Hellatone 60s and G12K100 -16 ohm Price with Alnico or Heritage would be as follows: Any Heritage combo (G12H, G12M or G12-65) $569. plus $34 shipping Alnico Golds or Blues $729. plus $34 shipping Choice of 4 ohm cab, 8 ohm cab, 16 ohm cab, stereo cab or mono cab. i would like to stick to the first category because of price.. anybody know what will be required for my cab to match well with my head? im a technical moron so any help would be greatly appreciated also... someone on another forum suggested vintage 30's my question is... vintage 30's appear to be 60 watt speakers, with 8ohms or 16ohms, so i know the ohms will work cause i have a switch on the back of my head that is either 4, 8, or 16 ohms and even though it is a 100watt head, its ok to have 60 watt speakers? thanks i appreciate it

May 12th, 2008, 03:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Schnauzer Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Coeur d'Alene Idaho Age: 61 Posts: 160	I would talk to Dave at Avatar. He has tons of experience and plays classic rock himself. He has always steered me right. His number is (208) 762-5251 Dave goes the extra mile for TDPRI members too. Jim __________________ Jim - "You boys doesn't play none of that narcotic music do ya?" The Clayton Club 1984

May 10th, 2008, 01:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
JohnnyCrash Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County Posts: 7,128	When it comes to multiple speakers, you combine their total wattage handling. Two 60 watt speakers have a 120 watt rating. As far as matching you amp... it's all taste. Make sure your amp is set to the impedance of the cab (depending on number of speakers, the cab will have a total impedance rating, Avatar sells them in preset impedance configurations). For a 100w Peavey head, I'm assuming you're playing hard rock? I love Vintage 30s for hard rock (for all kinds of music for that matter).

May 10th, 2008, 02:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Atticus 3 8 97 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, MA Age: 20 Posts: 182	yeah i play some hard rock, as well as some lighter strokes-ish type stuff as well, i've heard great things about vintage 30's and i listened to them on the website and they sound really good i'm still open for suggestions but this alternative sounds very appealing thanks for your help

May 12th, 2008, 03:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scott S Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SW CR IA US NA PE Age: 28 Posts: 1,922	FWIW, if you end up mixing different speakers, you want to multiply the one with the smallest rating. For example, if you have a 15W speaker and a 25W speaker in your cabinet, it's best not to put more than 30W into it.

May 12th, 2008, 03:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
vanr NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: AZ Age: 49 Posts: 2	I like the Vintage 30/GT-75 mix. Still a 120 watt cab though.