Orange Tiny Terror

J-man · April 1st, 2008, 08:07 AM

I've been curious about these for a while, they look very cool, and the price is certainly tempting.

I was thinking about getting one and an Orange cabinet to use as a gigging amp.

Any experiences? Good? Bad?

How loud is it? What sort of tones does it produce?

(I won't be able to try before I buy)

Cheers!

AngelStrummer · April 1st, 2008, 09:22 AM

Do a search in the site for "Tiny Terror" - you'll find everything you need to know.

teejoo · April 1st, 2008, 12:13 PM

I have one, with the matching 1*12 cab (with a V30). I like it very much, and use it as my main (practice and gigging) amp. It's surprisingly loud (and crunchy) with the volume and gain at about 3 o' clock. However, it has almost no clean headroom.

chabby · April 1st, 2008, 12:43 PM

I tried one and though it was cool it was a one trick poney that I could never use as my only amp for practice or gigging. As AngelStrummer states above there isn't enough clean headroom. But I would still like to have one as the one trick they do - they do very well.

teejoo · April 1st, 2008, 02:44 PM

A one trick pony indeed, but if you're playing in a no nonsense rock band it's got all the tricks you need.

AngelStrummer · April 1st, 2008, 05:44 PM

And, for the record, it wasn't me who wrote thast it doesn't have enough clean headroom...

In fact, whilst I haven't admittedly gigged it yet, I remain convinced that for small club gigs it's sufficient clea n-wise. Indeed, I use the clean tone because I rely on stompboxes - for me the TT works a treat. Nice and honest Class A tube tone that works well with pedals. If the stage is big, you can always mic it and send to monitor and PA.

telel6s · April 1st, 2008, 06:14 PM

I've only played a TT for a short spell in a store, but I think it would be great to pair one up with my Carmen Ghia head and run a delay pedal in stereo with the CG getting the main and the TT getting the repeats.

Of course I have no money to do this and no place to play it if I did, but it's fun to think about.

tiktok · April 1st, 2008, 07:57 PM

Ah..."Class A"...it must sound good.

AngelStrummer · April 2nd, 2008, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

Ah..."Class A"...it must sound good.

At risk of sounding paranoid, do I detect a slight tone of sarcasm?

tiktok · April 2nd, 2008, 03:23 AM

I've heard the Tiny Terror, they sound (and look) great, but I don't believe they're Class A, regardless of the marketing claims.

AngelStrummer · April 2nd, 2008, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

I've heard the Tiny Terror, they sound (and look) great, but I don't believe they're Class A, regardless of the marketing claims.

Fair enough. There's still some debate as to what exactly constitutes Class A. Last month's article in guitar player sheds some light.

That said, you're right when you say it's used as a marketing term. And since I'm proselitising, I will use marketing terms.

<jbc> · April 2nd, 2008, 04:00 AM

1.5K cathode resistors in the first two gain stages, dual-ganged pots for pre-amp and master volume. Could be picking up some more gain in the PI. Maybe a medium gain PI tube would increase the useable headroom?

<jbc> · April 2nd, 2008, 04:12 AM

nevermind

Smokin' Joe Picante · April 2nd, 2008, 06:57 PM

These are decent little amps! The half power switch bags the headroom a fair chunk, but in full power mode you have a bit more dynamic range to play with. If you dial back the volume on the guitar a touch, of course that helps as well. I think these things excel predominantly in full power mode crunching out. I wish every studio should had one of these (and a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia) at the dough they're going for...

Nub · April 3rd, 2008, 02:51 AM

Here are a couple of great Tiny Terror demos:

TT & Strat- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvAB6a0h9bA

TT & LP- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Oj-...eature=related

Another thing to consider, if you buy a TT & 1x12 Orange cab brand new, you're getting close to the price of a nice, used Rocker 30 combo. It's a great gigging amp, and is much more versatile, even just playing at home.

<jbc> · April 3rd, 2008, 07:07 AM

Over at the music-electronics-forum there is a good thread on these amps. They claim it is a clone of the old AC15.

They also suggest to bias the amp a little colder.

The amp is actually biased at over 15W per tube static. It's insane. I swapped the 100 ohm cathode resistor for a 180 ohm, made no difference in the sound but made the tubes a lot happier.

Note: In the schematic I have seen, the cathode resistor is 120 ohms.

tiny terror thread

I have my eye on one of these too!

rotren · April 3rd, 2008, 04:50 PM

I thought it sounded good, but I wasn't floored. One-trick pony I would say and there just wasn't enough "terror" in it for me. My 18 watt Heatseeker head sounds better.

IronJoe · April 3rd, 2008, 06:41 PM

I understand there is a Tiny Terror 1x12 combo on the way.

Tiny Terror

tiktok · April 3rd, 2008, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by <jbc>

Over at the music-electronics-forum there is a good thread on these amps. They claim it is a clone of the old AC15.

Well, if you can be a "clone" with a completely different control layout, I suppose so. However, I've never heard an AC15 described as a "one trick pony with no clean headroom".

However, Orange did clone the "class A" aspect of the AC15.

wakinglife · June 25th, 2008, 02:37 AM

The TT's are awesome. My only gripe is that you can't run two 8ohm cabs so if your unsure what ohm age your cabinets are you will have to open them up and multi meter them. As far as tone goes its a rock beast. The 7 watts setting with the gain up and the volume down you have some amazing clipping with out destroying your ears. As far as volume goes it carries its weight in a rehearsal setting and its so easy to carry one small head (over the shoulder bag) and one 2x12 cab:

April 1st, 2008, 08:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 20 Posts: 6,373 9 Photos	Orange Tiny Terror I've been curious about these for a while, they look very cool, and the price is certainly tempting. I was thinking about getting one and an Orange cabinet to use as a gigging amp. Any experiences? Good? Bad? How loud is it? What sort of tones does it produce? (I won't be able to try before I buy) Cheers! __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." - Tom Waits

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AngelStrummer Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London/Amsterdam Age: 41 Posts: 654	Do a search in the site for "Tiny Terror" - you'll find everything you need to know. __________________ "Goodnight, enjoy the life you've chosen" - Bill Hicks

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AngelStrummer Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London/Amsterdam Age: 41 Posts: 654	And, for the record, it wasn't me who wrote thast it doesn't have enough clean headroom... In fact, whilst I haven't admittedly gigged it yet, I remain convinced that for small club gigs it's sufficient clea n-wise. Indeed, I use the clean tone because I rely on stompboxes - for me the TT works a treat. Nice and honest Class A tube tone that works well with pedals. If the stage is big, you can always mic it and send to monitor and PA. __________________ "Goodnight, enjoy the life you've chosen" - Bill Hicks

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telel6s Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,181 80 Photos	I've only played a TT for a short spell in a store, but I think it would be great to pair one up with my Carmen Ghia head and run a delay pedal in stereo with the CG getting the main and the TT getting the repeats. Of course I have no money to do this and no place to play it if I did, but it's fun to think about. __________________ Mama always said, "A little tone is good for the soul."

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tiktok Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,190	Ah..."Class A"...it must sound good. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/travishartnett http://www.myspace.com/sugarcanemutiny Pearce Amps Info Page

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teejoo TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 65	I have one, with the matching 1*12 cab (with a V30). I like it very much, and use it as my main (practice and gigging) amp. It's surprisingly loud (and crunchy) with the volume and gain at about 3 o' clock. However, it has almost no clean headroom.

April 1st, 2008, 12:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
chabby Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,264	I tried one and though it was cool it was a one trick poney that I could never use as my only amp for practice or gigging. As AngelStrummer states above there isn't enough clean headroom. But I would still like to have one as the one trick they do - they do very well.

April 1st, 2008, 02:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
teejoo TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 65	A one trick pony indeed, but if you're playing in a no nonsense rock band it's got all the tricks you need.

April 2nd, 2008, 03:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
tiktok Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,190	I've heard the Tiny Terror, they sound (and look) great, but I don't believe they're Class A, regardless of the marketing claims. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/travishartnett http://www.myspace.com/sugarcanemutiny Pearce Amps Info Page

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<jbc> Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Switzerland Posts: 192 4 Photos	nevermind __________________ And now an important message from the Board of Directors ... Cease and Desist! Last edited by <jbc>; April 2nd, 2008 at 04:15 AM. Reason: incorrect comment

April 2nd, 2008, 06:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
Smokin' Joe Picante Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 508	These are decent little amps! The half power switch bags the headroom a fair chunk, but in full power mode you have a bit more dynamic range to play with. If you dial back the volume on the guitar a touch, of course that helps as well. I think these things excel predominantly in full power mode crunching out. I wish every studio should had one of these (and a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia) at the dough they're going for... __________________ http://www.joecurtisband.com/ Overheard at a gig... "The guitar could be louder... I have no idea how, but I'm sure it can be done..." ;)

April 3rd, 2008, 02:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
Nub Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 920	Here are a couple of great Tiny Terror demos: TT & Strat- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvAB6a0h9bA TT & LP- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Oj-...eature=related Another thing to consider, if you buy a TT & 1x12 Orange cab brand new, you're getting close to the price of a nice, used Rocker 30 combo. It's a great gigging amp, and is much more versatile, even just playing at home.

April 3rd, 2008, 07:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
<jbc> Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Switzerland Posts: 192 4 Photos	Over at the music-electronics-forum there is a good thread on these amps. They claim it is a clone of the old AC15. They also suggest to bias the amp a little colder. The amp is actually biased at over 15W per tube static. It's insane. I swapped the 100 ohm cathode resistor for a 180 ohm, made no difference in the sound but made the tubes a lot happier. Note: In the schematic I have seen, the cathode resistor is 120 ohms. tiny terror thread I have my eye on one of these too! __________________ And now an important message from the Board of Directors ... Cease and Desist! Last edited by <jbc>; April 3rd, 2008 at 07:21 AM. Reason: more better + info on biasing.

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rotren Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada, but born and raised in Sweden. Age: 39 Posts: 206	I thought it sounded good, but I wasn't floored. One-trick pony I would say and there just wasn't enough "terror" in it for me. My 18 watt Heatseeker head sounds better. __________________ Free guitar lessons - from country to rock to blues

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IronJoe Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 33 Posts: 414	I understand there is a Tiny Terror 1x12 combo on the way. Tiny Terror

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wakinglife NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: brisbane Posts: 4	The TT's are awesome. My only gripe is that you can't run two 8ohm cabs so if your unsure what ohm age your cabinets are you will have to open them up and multi meter them. As far as tone goes its a rock beast. The 7 watts setting with the gain up and the volume down you have some amazing clipping with out destroying your ears. As far as volume goes it carries its weight in a rehearsal setting and its so easy to carry one small head (over the shoulder bag) and one 2x12 cab: