Simon & Patrick construction

[chickenpicker]

I'm looking at an S & P acoustic.

I see on their site, that they use bolts to reinforce the neck joint:

http://www.simonandpatrick.com/strap...stallation.jpg

Is this common practice, or unique to them?

And are they doing this in order to get away with a simpler construction than traditional guitars?

And do Seagull guitars have the same construction?

[rcfs1834]

Two of my favorite brands, Taylor and Collings, both use bolts in their neck assemblies. I think Martin and Larrivee still use the traditional dove tail neck joint.

Here's a link to the Collings neck assembly diagram:
http://www.collingsguitars.com/image...ssembly-lg.jpg

Of course there are many other factors that will affect the tone of an acoustic guitar such as: wood type, body style, string gauge, scale, bracing, playing style, etc. So the neck joint is a small part of the tonal equation IMO.

Over at the Acoustic Guitar Fourm there are many threads debating bolt on necks vs dove tail necks. I've played guitars with both bolt ons and dove tails and I really can't tell the difference.

One bonus of a bolt on is that neck resets are easier.

So bolt ons seem to be a common practice among industry heavyweights. If S&P hase a bolt on neck probably the Seagull line does too. I'd email Godin and double check though. Nice guitars for the money.

[WallyArms]

Seagull has the same strap pin installation guide on their website.

[chickenpicker]

Originally Posted by WallyArms

Seagull has the same strap pin installation guide on their website.

Thanks guys. I probably should have just looked there in the first place, but it's good to get others' opinions.

[Vince a]

After looking and researching acoustics for nearly a year, to replace my existing 20+ year-old acoustic, I was down to a few heavyweight, big-dollar acoustics - Brans M and Brand T guitars!

Then, one day when I was out-of-town, I ventured into a small mom 'n' pops music store, and discovered S&P guitars. After trying one for about an hour, I said I wanted to go home and do some internet research on S&P guitars.

Within a few days, I called the store back and ordered an S&P Showcase Cutaway acoustic-electric . . . 5 months later, it arrived.

Don't knock the low $1300-$1500 price tag, as Canada (Godin, who makes the S&P) does not have to import and pay for exotic wood as do most American guitar makers. Some of the woods used in S&P guitars can be as old as 900 years-old.

I love the S&P! I use Martin Clapton's Choice, 13's on it!

[Jorge]

I recently got a S&M Spruce W/ Mic.. After this I packed down all my guitars and about half of them are for sale now.. It's only going to be my tele , my S&M and my 60's Landola 12-string left!
It's pure gold! , The neck is nice and fat and everybody who likes boatnecks (like it is on my 50's classic) wont be dissapointed since the guitar has some of that characteristics. (but not as fat!).
Most singers/guitarists are looking for a guitar that hasn't to much volume since vocals often gets drowned by a big acoustic guitar.
I have had this problem myself but the S&M Spruce has the perfect volume.