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Poster Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County
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$500 to $800 range?
I need a good sounding acoustic... and I'm on a budget :)
1. I do NOT need any pickups on it... I've already got undersaddle'ed guitars for live work. 2. It does NOT need to look fancy 3. This is ONLY for recording... so solid tops, with solid sides/back, if possible - it needs to sound good acoustically and it'll be behind with a good condenser mic in a studio - never used live. Any good recommendations based on your experiences? |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upper Holland, PA
Age: 51
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Check the Larrivee 03 series. You can get them in your budget range from a couple of dealers. Two I have used with great service are:
www.notableguitars.com and www.trinityguitars.com Jim |
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I am a huge Larrivee fan.. but, I think in that price range, I'd go see if you like those Blueridge guitars.... they are very aggressively priced and I have several friends who think highly of them.. they might be just the ticket...
here is an off the wall second choice.... an old Harmony Sovereign--60's... if you can find a good one (in LA you should be able to) they usually need neck resets and then they sound great... even with the setup, you'd be in your price range and have a keeper.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Pacific NW
Age: 53
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Another big plug for Larrivees. Great guitars. The forementioned Blueridges also rock.
Also, check out the Epiphone Masterbilt series. Major tone for little bucks. Another guitar I'm very impressed with is the Seagull S6. Great tone and feel for low dollars. Of course, buying used gets you much more geetar for the dough. Not sure if the new Parkwoods fall in your price range, but I played a few that were very tasty. Nice tone and playability. Don't know much about the company though. |
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Question(s): Will you be using it mostly for strumming? Bluegrass-style flatpicking? Quiet fingerpicking? Acoustic blues/slide? All of the above? It's something to think about: just as certain types of amps excel for certain styles, certain types of acoustics really "shine" in different applications.
But while you're thinking, a good "all-around" choice might be something like a used Taylor 314 (the non-cutaway, non-electric model). ![]() The grand auditorium size can cover both the flatpick and fingerpicking styles pretty well, the used 314s are right in your price range, and they tend to record VERY well. Heck, you might even find a used 414 for around $800 if you scout around long enough. Anyway, just a thought. Best of luck in your hunt. :-) CS
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Martin 15 series
Take a serious look at the Martin 15 series - all solid mahogany tops/sides/backs and they sound great. Mahogany generally records very well so these might just do you. I bought two of the 000 versions for my kids and they are great guitars and I heard a D15 the other day that really sounded wonderful and stood up to a Collings D1A jsut fine (a little darker than the Collings but certainly no slouch). The 000's should more acurately be called an OM since they have a long scale. You can find one used for around $600.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County
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For blues/slide I've got a resonator already.
I guess I'm looking for some sort of "studio workhorse". It's mainly big loud heavy rock, but even for this kind of music a bit of "shine" on the top frequency of attack is needed, as are a lot of other acoustic sounds. I do a lot of different styles for a lot of different projects, so something probably in the dreadnought category will fit the bill. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County
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Thanks for the suggestions guys! |
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Friend of Leo's
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how about a old Yamaha CJ-818. I used to have one, and that thing sounded like a grand piano. Big ole jumbo, solid spruce top, mahogany back/sides. i lost my mind and sold it 6 or 7 years ago. you can usually pick them up used...fleabay for 2-4 bills.
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The Taylor 210 is a great choice. They usually go for around $800 new and include a harshell case. All solid wood (spruce/sapele) with an all satin finish. Not the best hardshell case in the world, but it'll get the job done, espeically if you're only going to be recording with it.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Well, if you're going to blow off the budget - I have a J45 ('98) that's a particuarly good guitar and I bet you could find a good one too. They vary a lot, but there are some good pieces floating around out there. If you reall want to blow the budget (including rent, cr payments etc) get your hands on a Collings D1A - they can be just amazing and built extremely well. The adirondack gives you a fast attack and a lot of chime. The Gibsons compress and record very well for strumming and the Collings is a single note monster - kind of an Uber-D18.
Can't say enough about mahogany for recording. Now quit thinking about this stuff and put the powerbridge on so I can hear about it. Jeeeeeeez.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I know, I know... I've been slacking. I've been thinking out loud here on so many things - a 15" AlNiCo, an Acoustic, my next amp build... I need to just get to it and drop in the Powerbridge on my ES-135. |
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Re: $500 to $800 range?
I'd suggest checking out a used Guild dread... something like a D-25, D-35 or D-40 could be had for within your range.
Pre-Fender Guild's made in Westerly, RI are great guitars- I've heard mixed things about the newer ones. Guild made guitars in Westerly from about '70 - '95 or so before Fender took over, and they can still be found fairly reasonably especially compared to Martins, etc. from the same era. I have to second the Martin 15 series too. The D-15 now comes in either all solid mahogany, spruce top/mahog sides or spruce top/rosewood sides. I have an all mahogany 000-15, and it is a fine guitar. |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Park Ridge, NJ
Age: 63
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Seagull. There's no panacea need for solid sides and backs, only tops that move well - that's where all the tone's at anyway. I'll match a cedar topped Seagull against any big buck brand/model - it'll hold its own, IMO, particularly if ya do a blindfold sonic taste test. Besides, ya can't see a guitar on a recording. 8) YMMV.
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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LARRIVEE ALL THE WAY
I own 2 Larrivee's now and won't play anything else. I bought a 2005 D-05 on eBay for $950 plus shipping. The resale-ability on these is much better than a seagull, or a Blueridge too. You may not be planning on selling your guitar, but neither did the guy I bought that D-05 from! Seriously, Larrivee D-03 series goes all day long on eBay from $500-$700 sometimes less. I would play that side by side with the Seagull and the Martin 15 and the Blueridge...(I don't mention the Epiphone Masterbuilt because the one's I've played aren't worth mentioning!) For the money you absolutely are NOT going to beat a Larrivee. Take it from a peewee that dropped 2 grand on his rig...
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Pacific NW
Age: 53
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While I certianly love my Larrivee, ( I have a 78 L-09 and it records beautifully as have other Larrivees I've used ) it would behoove you to do the blind test.
The Masterbilts I've tried have been excellent. I love the OM sized one. Great neck and wonderful voice. The two Seagulls I recently set up ( an older S-6 and a newer S-6 Folk ) are very nice. The smaller bodied Folk is an exceptional little guitar and the dread sized S6 was a real eye opener. I played a used Simon and Patrick not too long ago ( don't know anything about them ) that was an amazing guitar for $250. For me, resale never enters the picture. If the guitar speaks to me, I don't care if it's a Collings or a Mateo! Everyone has their own preference and our opinions are shaped by experience. Hopefully, you can find one that fits what you need in a guitar.....be that Larrivee, Taylor, Martin, Seagull, Tacoma, Takamine, etc. Good luck! |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Raleigh NC
Age: 30
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the newer chinese-made Guilds are worth looking at in that price range. My vote goes with the Masterbilt epiphone, though. I'd avoid any of the Martins in that price range. I haven't been impressed with them....the expensive ones are another story...
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wollongong. Australia
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I think the Larrivees are fabulous guitars (I have a D-10 and wouldn't mind adding an OM-10 to the collection) but for your price range may I be a bit partisan and suggest a serious look at the Australian-Made Maton BG808 series guitars?
The Australian tonewoods are very harmonic-rich and the BG808 series is a very well-balanced Auditiorium-sized guitar that records exceptionally well. You can get them with AA-grade Solid spruce tops, with or without electronics, cutaways etc. They have a rich, warm tone and are durable as well as easy to listen to. Tommy Emmanuel gives his factory-stock Matons a thrashing on tour and they just keep on ringing. I found a sweet BG808 earlier this year in Melbourne and regret not buying it (I was looking at a Martin HD-28V in the same shop and I couldn't hear nearly three thousand dollars worth of difference between the Maton and the Martin to be perfectly honest). It may be well worth checking out the Matons, they're made beautifully and they sound great. At your rate-of-exchange one might well fit right into your requirements. (The Maton Custom Shop will do you a very nice tricked-up BG808 if you wish, too). I admit to being partisan and pro-Australian, but these are seriously good guitars at very reasonable prices. I have a Maton Lyrebird I hope to pick up from the shop in the not too-distant future. There were 50 Lyrebirds built, from Satin Boxwood and Victorian Blackwood, both of which grow together in nature. The top is solid AAA-grade Sitka spruce. These Aussie tonewoods are exceptionally bright and I just couldn't resist it. No electronics, no pickguard, just magnificent sound right from brand-new. What's it gonna sound like after thirty years? They have a website, www.maton.com.au (The Lyrebird isn't on it yet but the BG808 series is, as are some of the Custom Shop creations.) An email would get you details of distributors in your area. A look at the reviews in Harmony Central under the Maton brand might prove of assistance as well.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Irving, United States of Texas!
Age: 43
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Are there still people who don't know about Martin's D15?
I mean for @ 7 Bens, I'm wondering why guitarists who need an acoustic guitar, STILL haven't bought one of these Martins?? |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County
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Seagulls are nice and cheap for solid tops, but I'll probably drop a few more bills and go for the Martin... |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ohio
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When you're trying some out, see if you can find a Tacoma DM-9, particularly used. Those are pretty nice, all solid wood, US-made guitars and--at least a few months ago--were really cheap on the used market.
Besides that, I'd also try out the Martin 15-series (and maybe a used 16), Larrivee 03-series, the LaSiDos (Seagull, Simon & Patrick, etc.), Taylor 2xxs (if you like the typical Taylor sound) and whatever else you happen to spot. |
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