Just broke my Seagull...

Jakedog · April 29th, 2008, 12:25 AM

I feel like a complete IDIOT.

Just got up off the couch to drag my silly butt to bed, and what did I do? I put my arm down on my Seagull (sitting next to me on the couch) and basically used it as leverage to push myself up. Not on purpose, I just wasn't thinking or paying attention.

DOH!!!

It made kind of a "boing" sound with all of the strings ringing. I'll pull 'em off tomorrow and see how bad the damage is, but for now, I can push and tap the top and tell I popped a brace loose.

I can be a real dumb*ss sometimes. At least I have a great tech.

Jake

NEPATelecaster · April 29th, 2008, 11:39 AM

I have 2 Seagulls. I would be upset too.

Colt W. Knight · April 29th, 2008, 11:45 AM

That sucks.

Tim Armstrong · April 29th, 2008, 12:15 PM

Ouch!

I guess as long as you didn't hear splintering noises, it's probably a simple repair, but still... Ouch!

Cheers, Tim

RickG501 · April 29th, 2008, 12:48 PM

All my sympathy, in your time of dispair. Ouch is right!

The worst part is: you have no one else to blame it on...

Stuco · April 29th, 2008, 12:52 PM

Smooth move

Jakedog · April 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM

I checked it today. It's one of the diagonal braces toward the back of the top. One end is popped loose. The brace isn't broken, and no wood is damaged, just needs glued back down. Could have been MUCH worse.

On the lighter side, I told my wife about it this morning, also told her I felt like a complete idiot. She wrapped her arms around me, and said very sweetly "you're not a complete idiot, just fairly stupid".

What would I do without her?

Jake

mudbean · April 29th, 2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakedog

On the lighter side, I told my wife about it this morning, also told her I felt like a complete idiot. She wrapped her arms around me, and said very sweetly "you're not a complete idiot, just fairly stupid".

What would I do without her?

Jake

Yep, I used to think that I was only a partial idiot, but I have come to realize that I am, in fact, complete.

Sorry to hear about the damage, Jake.

mud

Colt W. Knight · April 29th, 2008, 05:41 PM

This is only a good thing if your wife will let you buy a new acoustic. Then you can fix your old one yourself and have two acoustics. The fixed seagull can be the beater, and the new one can be your good one.

Rob DiStefano · April 29th, 2008, 05:51 PM

Seagulls are my faves and relatively easy to work on. Bet that's just a popped brace and a reglue will have ya back strummin' in no time.

jcayer · April 29th, 2008, 06:37 PM

I wish you luck with your guitar tech...

I love my seagull...

RickG501 · April 30th, 2008, 01:48 AM

"On the lighter side, I told my wife about it this morning, also told her I felt like a complete idiot. She wrapped her arms around me, and said very sweetly "you're not a complete idiot, just fairly stupid". What would I do without her?

Jake"

Jakedog · April 30th, 2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Colt W. Knight

This is only a good thing if your wife will let you buy a new acoustic. Then you can fix your old one yourself and have two acoustics. The fixed seagull can be the beater, and the new one can be your good one.

Ah, herein lies the rub... I own eight acoustics. Several are VERY nice. I bought the Seagull to travel with, I do lots of road gigs, some of them requiring flights, and I really didn't like the idea of my nice pieces being assaulted by baggage handlers. It's turned into my number one go-to guitar. I pick it up before anything else I have, and as I said, I have some really nice guitars. There's just something about it.

It is just a loose brace, I'll get it fixed this week, and it'll be back on the road. It was just a real bummer to do something so stupid. I got off easy this time, and I will now make sure it never happens again.

Jake

jazztele · April 30th, 2008, 10:17 AM

hey, jake, a COMPLETE idiot would have no idea how cool seagulls are...don't be so hard on yourself.

Stuco · April 30th, 2008, 01:48 PM

A loose brace is not really a big deal. Take it to a tech and they should have it fixed in no time.

NEPATelecaster · April 30th, 2008, 04:46 PM

Jake,

What 'Gull is it? I have a S6 and Entourage Rustic Mini Jumbo.

Jakedog · April 30th, 2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPATelecaster

Jake,

What 'Gull is it? I have a S6 and Entourage Rustic Mini Jumbo.

It's an S-6+, the gloss top cutaway model with the QII electronics. Fantastic guitar. I have been looking at those mini-jumbos, they are nice! I think my next gull is going to be a parlor though. I've played a couple recently, and they are quite impressive.

Jake

Telarkaster · April 30th, 2008, 09:07 PM

Hey Jake, how do you like the QII system? Does it play well with a band (bass and drums with electric guitar)? Do the mic and pickup mix well?

I checked out a Seagull Mini-Jumbo Performer Cut away with QII but unplugged (I was in a hurry). I was very impressed and will go back to give it another whirl to hear how it sounds through an amp.

Flat357 · April 30th, 2008, 09:24 PM

Who's a lucky boy then ?

Close call mefinx .
Hope you get fixed real soon !

While we're on the subject of Seagulls , can you remember who said this ?

" When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea " ?

No cheating lol .

Jakedog · April 30th, 2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Telarkaster

Hey Jake, how do you like the QII system? Does it play well with a band (bass and drums with electric guitar)? Do the mic and pickup mix well?

I checked out a Seagull Mini-Jumbo Performer Cut away with QII but unplugged (I was in a hurry). I was very impressed and will go back to give it another whirl to hear how it sounds through an amp.

The QII system is by FAR the best sounding system I own. I have a Fishman set-up in my D-35, and a Baggs set-up in my J200, this makes 'em both sound like toys.

I really like the mix feature. I don't know how much you looked at it, but with the mix knob centered, it detents, and gives you just the piezo. Roll the mix knob left or right, to mix the mic in either in or out of phase. Highly useable, and really sweet.

The mic is prone to feedback in full band situations. Bass guitar and kickdrum will wreak havoc with it on a loud stage. In these situations, I only use the piezo. It sounds great by itself, and in a full mix, works just fine. Most of my gigs though are either solo, or with my three piece acoustic outfit (2 guits and a mando) and the mic works great, and sounds really nice. I've noticed I get the best, and most faithful acoustic reproduction with the mic mixed about half to three quarters in with the piezo.

Watch your bass and treble controls, they have a very wide sweep, and a little goes a long way when you're adjusting them.

I have had the guitar a year, and gigged it around 120 dates. I love it.

Jake

Johnny Glow · May 1st, 2008, 04:57 PM

Ahh yes, complete idiot, I resemble that...

About 10 years ago, in a ridiculous effort to woo a young lady, I slung my Seagull on my back (without straplocks of couse) with the intention of serenading said young lady by moonlight on Stinson Beach. I got halfway through the parking lot and the strap let go. Blam! The top separated from the body half-way around. Took it in for repairs, they glued it back, and I'm still strumming years later.

The great thing about those cedar tops is that they are so soft and so easily scratched and marred. You end up with a great historical record of all your foibles.

Telarkaster · May 1st, 2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakedog

The QII system is by FAR the best sounding system I own. I have a Fishman set-up in my D-35, and a Baggs set-up in my J200, this makes 'em both sound like toys.

I really like the mix feature. I don't know how much you looked at it, but with the mix knob centered, it detents, and gives you just the piezo. Roll the mix knob left or right, to mix the mic in either in or out of phase. Highly useable, and really sweet.

The mic is prone to feedback in full band situations. Bass guitar and kickdrum will wreak havoc with it on a loud stage. In these situations, I only use the piezo. It sounds great by itself, and in a full mix, works just fine. Most of my gigs though are either solo, or with my three piece acoustic outfit (2 guits and a mando) and the mic works great, and sounds really nice. I've noticed I get the best, and most faithful acoustic reproduction with the mic mixed about half to three quarters in with the piezo.

Watch your bass and treble controls, they have a very wide sweep, and a little goes a long way when you're adjusting them.

I have had the guitar a year, and gigged it around 120 dates. I love it.

Jake

Thanks for the input Jake, I just came back from the store with a brand new Seagull with QII electronics! Mini Jumbo with cutaway, I'm really excited even if my wife isn't

I'll start a new thread and post pics later. I'm bringing it to the jam tonight and will put it through its paces with guys on drums and bass. You were dead on with your description of the knobs, it sounded great through the PA and a Twin at the music store, and even with the mic off the piezo saddle didn't sound quacky at all.

I can't believe how well this thing plays, thanks again Jake!

Sorry to hear about your mishap, these things happen to all of us at one point or another and I'm sure it'll be fixed up fine.

April 29th, 2008, 12:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jakedog Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cleveland,OH But my heart's still in TE Posts: 2,905	Just broke my Seagull... I feel like a complete IDIOT. Just got up off the couch to drag my silly butt to bed, and what did I do? I put my arm down on my Seagull (sitting next to me on the couch) and basically used it as leverage to push myself up. Not on purpose, I just wasn't thinking or paying attention. DOH!!! It made kind of a "boing" sound with all of the strings ringing. I'll pull 'em off tomorrow and see how bad the damage is, but for now, I can push and tap the top and tell I popped a brace loose. I can be a real dumb*ss sometimes. At least I have a great tech. Jake __________________ "Them that don't know him won't like him, and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him..."

April 29th, 2008, 12:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berlin, Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 8,391	Ouch! I guess as long as you didn't hear splintering noises, it's probably a simple repair, but still... Ouch! Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

April 29th, 2008, 12:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stuco Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: GA Posts: 2,829	Smooth move __________________ -"You do not merely want to be considered just the best of the best. You want to be considered the only ones who do what you do" J. Garcia

April 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jakedog Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cleveland,OH But my heart's still in TE Posts: 2,905	I checked it today. It's one of the diagonal braces toward the back of the top. One end is popped loose. The brace isn't broken, and no wood is damaged, just needs glued back down. Could have been MUCH worse. On the lighter side, I told my wife about it this morning, also told her I felt like a complete idiot. She wrapped her arms around me, and said very sweetly "you're not a complete idiot, just fairly stupid". What would I do without her? Jake __________________ "Them that don't know him won't like him, and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him..."

April 29th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
jcayer Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 269	I wish you luck with your guitar tech... I love my seagull... __________________ Jean www.jcayer.com CC Rider pickup installation: http://www.jcayer.com/bricolages/ccriderpups.htm Luke, may the twang be with you

April 29th, 2008, 11:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
NEPATelecaster Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Archbald - NEAR Scranton PA Age: 34 Posts: 977	I have 2 Seagulls. I would be upset too.

April 29th, 2008, 11:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wyoming Age: 24 Posts: 1,605	That sucks.

April 29th, 2008, 12:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
RickG501 Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 54 Posts: 795	All my sympathy, in your time of dispair. Ouch is right! The worst part is: you have no one else to blame it on...

April 29th, 2008, 05:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wyoming Age: 24 Posts: 1,605	This is only a good thing if your wife will let you buy a new acoustic. Then you can fix your old one yourself and have two acoustics. The fixed seagull can be the beater, and the new one can be your good one.

April 29th, 2008, 05:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rob DiStefano Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Park Ridge, NJ Age: 62 Posts: 4,620	Seagulls are my faves and relatively easy to work on. Bet that's just a popped brace and a reglue will have ya back strummin' in no time.

April 30th, 2008, 01:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
RickG501 Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 54 Posts: 795	"On the lighter side, I told my wife about it this morning, also told her I felt like a complete idiot. She wrapped her arms around me, and said very sweetly "you're not a complete idiot, just fairly stupid". What would I do without her? Jake"

April 30th, 2008, 10:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
jazztele Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chicago Age: 29 Posts: 1,699	hey, jake, a COMPLETE idiot would have no idea how cool seagulls are...don't be so hard on yourself. __________________ “For the guitar is the most unpredictable and least reliable musical instrument in existence...and also the sweetest, the warmest, the most delicate, whose melancholic voice awakes in our soul exquisite reveries.” Andres Segovia

April 30th, 2008, 01:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Stuco Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: GA Posts: 2,829	A loose brace is not really a big deal. Take it to a tech and they should have it fixed in no time. __________________ -"You do not merely want to be considered just the best of the best. You want to be considered the only ones who do what you do" J. Garcia

April 30th, 2008, 04:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
NEPATelecaster Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Archbald - NEAR Scranton PA Age: 34 Posts: 977	Jake, What 'Gull is it? I have a S6 and Entourage Rustic Mini Jumbo.

April 30th, 2008, 09:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
Telarkaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal Quebec Canada Posts: 1,513	Hey Jake, how do you like the QII system? Does it play well with a band (bass and drums with electric guitar)? Do the mic and pickup mix well? I checked out a Seagull Mini-Jumbo Performer Cut away with QII but unplugged (I was in a hurry). I was very impressed and will go back to give it another whirl to hear how it sounds through an amp.

April 30th, 2008, 09:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
Flat357 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cheshire Age: 40 Posts: 2,756	Who's a lucky boy then ? Close call mefinx . Hope you get fixed real soon ! While we're on the subject of Seagulls , can you remember who said this ? " When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea " ? No cheating lol . __________________ Homepage http://www.soundclick.com/members/de...member=flat357 MySpace http://www.myspace.com/flat357

May 1st, 2008, 04:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
Johnny Glow Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just down the coast from San Francisco Posts: 170 2 Photos	Ahh yes, complete idiot, I resemble that... About 10 years ago, in a ridiculous effort to woo a young lady, I slung my Seagull on my back (without straplocks of couse) with the intention of serenading said young lady by moonlight on Stinson Beach. I got halfway through the parking lot and the strap let go. Blam! The top separated from the body half-way around. Took it in for repairs, they glued it back, and I'm still strumming years later. The great thing about those cedar tops is that they are so soft and so easily scratched and marred. You end up with a great historical record of all your foibles.