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Old April 29th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #261 (permalink)
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I like the aluminum spacer; it takes what was a mistake and turns it into a definite asset. Design-wise, it really ties in the truss rod plug liner from the other side of the headstock. I wouldn't have thought I'd like the aluminum features, but you've pulled everything off in a very classy way.

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Old April 29th, 2012, 02:46 PM   #262 (permalink)
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Very cool idea for the tuner spacer.
Thanks, ya after thinking about it for a while, I just did not like the idea of adding wood as the neck is a single piece of Khaya and I want to keep the grain that's there.

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That tuner spacer is brilliant! It looks neat and also lines up the tuners. I may have to steal that one for a future build.
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Go for it - it really does make the whole job of getting the tuner holes and the alignment pins aligned pretty easy: I found that once I had the tuner holes done, I just took the Aluminum off of the neck, pressed the drill bit through the hole in the flat piece of Aluminum and then set a straight piece of molding for a fence; then clamped it all in position; then replaced the 25/64" bit with the #36 bit for the smaller hole and then I just had to get the offset right as the center was taken care of by the fence....

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+1 on the skunk stripe, I love the blend of wood and metal particularly in architechture, it is a very cool look and works well here. Congrats :)
Thanks, I did not anticipate how complicated it makes the sanding since the Aluminum has to be filed and the Khaya will come off really fast with just a little sanding - but now that it's all done I'm really liking it and I'll do some more necks like this.

Ya - that spacer is really stiff, way stiffer than the wood I used - so that helps correct the extra flex that the headstock would have had too.

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I like the aluminum spacer; it takes what was a mistake and turns it into a definite asset. Design-wise, it really ties in the truss rod plug liner from the other side of the headstock. I wouldn't have thought I'd like the aluminum features, but you've pulled everything off in a very classy way.
Thanks!! I'm relieved that others like what I did there, it's pretty easy for me to like my own work because it represents what I thought was an interesting idea, when in reality maybe the execution may not be all that great... So, I really appreciate all the feedback!

It will great to finally get this bolted up to the body.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 03:14 AM   #263 (permalink)
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Tonight I swapped out the nickle Sperzels in the above pictures with some satin chrome tuners that I had on a different guitar. Then I finished drawing up a pickguard and cut it out to see how it might work with the body.




I did not get any work done on the bridge, I was trying to figure out if I was going to try to go with a 3 or a 6 saddle bridge - and if a 3 saddle bridge, should I go with the thin rod (3/16") or thick rod (3/8) for the saddles? Here's some pictures of the bridges I've done in the past, I can't quite decide...






Maybe I'm leaning towards the 3/8" rod...

Then, I got one more coat of AOF on the neck. I have another business trip this week, so I don't know if I'll make a lot of progress this week. But I think that's OK - the neck will completely dry in a few days and then the bridge and pickguard should go pretty quickly.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 08:47 AM   #264 (permalink)
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Mojo, great solution to the headstock thickness problem -- it
ends up being a nice cosmetic element, too.

You mentioned ginger ale -- I've always found it funny that
you rarely see it around, but you can always get it on a
flight. Why?
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That pg is going to look great. Couple it with the aluminum, and you have a cool retro/futuristic look.
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Mojo, great solution to the headstock thickness problem -- it
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You mentioned ginger ale -- I've always found it funny that
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That's funny - I had the exact same thought about 10 years ago when I was doing a lot of traveling - they always have ginger ale on flights. Then I started drinking ginger ale - it was something different that did not have caffeine. Then I was hooked on the stuff Now, I wonder about cream soda
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That pg is going to look great. Couple it with the aluminum, and you have a cool retro/futuristic look.
Thanks - yep - I think that's really what a lot of the Fender-ish lines are about - they all kind of came out of a Jetson's episode.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 12:27 AM   #268 (permalink)
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Back home and still pluggin' away. I worked on the bridge.

Made some saddles. I thought I would try some different methods of making these: Here, instead of filing off the bottom, I kept the rod sections as big as possible to keep the mass of the saddle as high as possible.



Filed the sides.







I did some routing on the sides, but at the end of the day I did most of the shaping with files... Worked pretty well.







I think that's the best bridge I've made so far.

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That bridge looks sweet. Are you gonna stay with the brushed look or polish it up? I think either will look killer, but I'll cast my vote for a shiny plate! Nice work
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That bridge looks sweet. Are you gonna stay with the brushed look or polish it up? I think either will look killer, but I'll cast my vote for a shiny plate! Nice work
Thanks. Ya, that Aluminum will shine up pretty well. I don't know yet - I have to see how much time I have. That is sanded to 600gt, I wanted to leave it there until I have everything assembled.
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Great idea on the headstock shim, it does really tie in with the aluminum skunk stripe, and now the bridge, too. It's going to look great.
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Great idea on the headstock shim, it does really tie in with the aluminum skunk stripe, and now the bridge, too. It's going to look great.
Thanks - yep that's what I had in mind. I have 2 sets of tuners - Nickel and 'satin silver' so, I'll figure out which look the best in a couple of days when I start assembling things.

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Very nice bridge
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Love the bridge , and the headstock/tuner shim , nice metal work
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Love the bridge , and the headstock/tuner shim , nice metal work
Thanks Herb and Roger - I'll have to learn how to do nickel plating at some point, but I think Aluminum gets the job done and is super easy to work. I did a few bridges in Steel a couple years ago and it was much much harder.
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Finishing the carving jig:
I got out a block of UHMW plastic to use for a guide



I'm not sure if there is a way to glue this to anything, so I screwed it on.



I found out that Durham's does not do so well on pointy corners like these - Durham's will chip...

I know - quite late to the party as usual. I saw 2 things in this post that I have dealt with. For the UHMW plastic I have used Titebond (original) - I have a workbench area for my drill press, ROSS etc. I put a piece of plywood under each bench tool and glued 2 pieces of UHMW plastic on each side to allow the tools to be easily slid on the bench when I need to move them out of the way. The benchtop is melamine. The glue has held for 2 years in a garage in AZ - thru 2 summers of 110 degree heat outside.

As for the Durhams chipping (same for Bondo) - when I use it I like to lay down some thin CA glue after the water putty or bondo has dried. The water putty and Bondo absorb the glue quite well. This does 2 things - helps harden the filler and make it easier to hold a shape (harder to sand but it won't chip or crack). I use the same CA trick on the sides of my MDF templates - helps prevents any nicks or dings from normal use. Stinks a lot - those fumes are nasty - but it works great.

BTW - awesome job on the neck and body. I love the added details of the aluminum - it really "snazzes up" the look. Great job.
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Way cool idea to use that aluminum shim behind the tuners!!!
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Way cool idea to use that aluminum shim behind the tuners!!!
Thanks! It's going to be interesting to see how things look assembled.
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I know - quite late to the party as usual. I saw 2 things in this post that I have dealt with. For the UHMW plastic I have used Titebond (original) - I have a workbench area for my drill press, ROSS etc. I put a piece of plywood under each bench tool and glued 2 pieces of UHMW plastic on each side to allow the tools to be easily slid on the bench when I need to move them out of the way. The benchtop is melamine. The glue has held for 2 years in a garage in AZ - thru 2 summers of 110 degree heat outside.
Wow - I would have never guessed - I'll have to try it. Thanks!!

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As for the Durhams chipping (same for Bondo) - when I use it I like to lay down some thin CA glue after the water putty or bondo has dried. The water putty and Bondo absorb the glue quite well. This does 2 things - helps harden the filler and make it easier to hold a shape (harder to sand but it won't chip or crack). I use the same CA trick on the sides of my MDF templates - helps prevents any nicks or dings from normal use. Stinks a lot - those fumes are nasty - but it works great.
That make a lot of sense. I used to use poly for the sides of templates and it only helped to seal things - CA is some tough stuff - I'll give that a shot.

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BTW - awesome job on the neck and body. I love the added details of the aluminum - it really "snazzes up" the look. Great job.
Thanks - ya I like the look of rosewood strip/plug with a rosewood fretboard... but I think this Aluminum has really grown on me.. used it quite a bit on last year's challenge as well.
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The Evolution of a Pickguard :)

The tricky thing about making a custom pickguard is the layout of the controls and matching up with the pickup holes as well as the neck...

So what I do is I make a clear one first, that way I can layout everything and be able see where everything is below...



































I will love to get to the point where I can play it :)
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