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Old January 5th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ronkirn View Post
Try this... I mean Really... go to any decent guitar shop... and honestly look away and have a really good guitarist play several guitars without first becoming familiar with the guitars sound or any aspect of the guitars being played… then try to identify the nut material, fret board wood, material the frets are made of, paint, etc etc... or, how loud the shirt the guy playing the guitar is..
Perhaps I'm wrong and someone can correct me, but I honestly cannot remember anyone around here ever claiming to be able to do that.

Here's something you can do. Go to a guitar shop and do the same thing with someone playing a new Gibson SG, a Les Paul and an ES335. I'd be very surprised if you could tell which one is being played.
Does that 'prove' there's no difference between them? Not at all.

But maybe buy them and play them out in different environments for a while. Or ask players who have.
There will be differences.


As far as I can tell, there's no definite consensus around here that any particular material for any particular body part always makes an improvement or even a consistent type of tonal quality. Or that cost and 'desirability' is always proportionate to subjective sound quality/improvement.

But we do hear differences when we change things around. To expect us to believe otherwise is like expecting us to believe every telecaster on every shop wall is exactly the same sound wise and that we shouldn't worry about choosing one over another in that regard. That ain't gonna happen.
Change a guitar part = it becomes a new guitar to some extent = its tonal/response characteristics change.
Exactly how they will change it's impossible to say. But we do enjoy looking into it and discussing it.
And if I recall correctly, we don't always get posts rabbitting cliches about what should happen according to 'internet BS', so we aren't all hearing what we 'expect' to.



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Originally Posted by Ronkirn View Post
My continuing point is, most of the changes I see guys want to incorporate in their guitars would be analogous to going from 87 octane to 93 or whatever in their fuel tank... for most, their driving would never reveal any difference AT ALL, except when they look in their wallet.

Actually, anyone who gets higher octane fuel isn't hoping to become a better driver...they're hoping their car becomes better to drive. Different thing.
And note that any effect would probably be subtle and only noticable after driving quite a distance and only to the driver...not to passengers or other drivers.
And it wouldn't be noticable doing an A/B test on the gas station forecourt.
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